BUSH'S GUARD 'ACCUSER' ADMITS FAULTY MEMORY (Alzheimer's)

NY Post ^ | 2.15.04

[ambrose]

February 15, 2004 -- Serious doubts have been raised about the stories of two key Alabama National Guard figures who questioned whether President Bush showed up for weekend duty there in the early 1970s.

Retired Brig. Gen. William Turnipseed, the 187th's Tactical Reconnaissance Group's former commander, recanted his statement that he couldn't remember if Bush reported for duty, now saying his memory is faulty because he's in the beginning stages of Alzheimer's disease.

[FormerACLUmember]

Even the most minimal investigative reporting would indicate that the "source" had Alzheimer's Disease.

Of more interest I would think would be Kerry's self-reporting of incidents that got him the Silver Star: shooting a dead Vietnamese in the back.

[cyncooper]

Hi YaYa. I saw Calhoun talking to Campbell Brown (yesterday?) and she looked ticked at his appearance on the scene and demanded to know where anybody else was that could corroborate him and she cited some of those who had said they didn't recall seeing Lt. Bush thought they were assigned to that base.

Calhoun pointed out that most of those regularly assigned to the base flew during the week and Guard drills were held on the weekend, so that would account for some not seeing him. Then he informed her that many of the men were in their 40's and 50's back then and are now DEAD.

Perhaps add in the political resentment of some live guys who remember but aren't rushing to the press to talk about it, and there you go.

And I like your word "demonic". I also like what one poster said the other day: The media is acting like there's an unsolved murder from back then and Bush needs to come up with an alibi.

[FormerACLUmember]

Post 68: (Hideous photo of Kerry and Kennedy) A gigilo and his liver-challenged mentor. Two amoral weasels of the first rank. Both ethically unfit to collect dog poop, much less run a nation.

[LowOiL]

BTTT... The press has some explainin to do, and backpeddling too.

[freeangel]

Well, if his memory is faulty now as a result of Alzheimers, think what kind of decisions he must have been making in his miltary career(if he actually had the beginnings of Alzheimers back then). I think CBS should make a movie and portray him as a fool. OOps, that story line has already been used by CBS on a Republican--they would never consider it for a dimwit.

[DuncanWaring]

...Turnipseed...

Back at the Blue Zoo, in the summer of '72 or '73, I met a kid named "Turnipseed" ... certainly a memorable name ... I'm guessing now he was probably the son of then-Col Turnipseed.

[angkor]

I can't remember the names of more thatna two or three of the guys I served with in this period,

I remember the two guys who were booted for nighttime indiscretions, and the one guy who in fact did go AWOL, and my fellow platoon leaders, and the company commander, and the nutcase who required a physical reprimand from his platoon leader (me).

But with the exception of the CC, I couldn't remember their names if you paid me. The rest are all vague memories at best.

[YaYa123]

"The media is acting like there's an unsolved murder from back then and Bush needs to come up with an alibi."

Briliant analogy!!!!

After watching Chris Mathews and his roundtable show, you have to know, their ignorance of all the evidence now available, is intentional.

But one good thing has to come out of this. When the media starts it's self-absorbed navel gazing, it will have to be painfully obvious to everyone that this National Guard episode provided our media with their BBC - NYTimes moment of history. Like the BBC, like The NYTimes, they've been outted. Credibility lost forever!!

When David Gregory said, well now the real issue won't be whether Bush was in Alabama doing his duty, it will be comparing Kerry's Viet Nam to Bush's NG, you realize the media has moved that proverbial goal post to it's final fall-back position.

[FormerACLUmember]

Fossil Footprints Prove Bush Served in Alabama
(2004-02-13) -- Archeologists working on a dig near Dannelly Air National Guard Base have uncovered a fossilized set of footprints which reportedly support President George W. Bush's contention that he served his Guard duty in Alabama more than three decades ago.

Radiocarbon dating, and analysis of the geological stratum in which the fossils were found establish that the prints were made during the Vietnam era.

"The angle and depth of the boot impressions match the gait and known weight of the young Mr. Bush at that time," said an unnamed archeologist. "It was quite exciting at the dig site -- like finding the proverbial missing link."

Together with previously discovered dental records and ancient documents, this latest evidence helps complete a picture that confirms what the President has said all along.

Forensic specialists will now comb the sedimentary layers where the footprints were unearthed hoping to recover bits of fossilized hair, saliva or sloughed-off skin cells to subject to DNA analysis which would finally prove his Guard service conclusively.

[Reagan Man]

This continues to be a political red herring and most American's know it. The issue may not totally fade away, but the feeding frenzy will subside.

[Hon]

Thanks for the ping. But this is truly an unfair representation of what Turnipseed has said--and always said--at least according to him.

Debunking The Bush AWOL Story - From The Horse's Mouth
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073076/posts

It looks like they are trying to discredit Turnipseed rather than the liar like (convicted libeler) Walter Robinson of the Boston Globe.

Kind of surprising and disappointing coming from Deborah Orin.

[Cinnamon Girl]

There is a war against terror going on, the issue of whether President Bush's tax cuts will be reversed, the issue of giving amnesty to illegals, the question of making legal the "marriage" of two men...

SO LET'S FOCUS ON PRESIDENT BUSH'S NATIONAL GUARD SERVICE 30 YEARS AGO!

(excerpts from Boston Globe staff meeting minutes 1/04)

[NYCVirago]

I don't know but Michael Moore has gone over the edge. He's got Bush's dental diagram on his front page now. He's obsessed. It's creepy.

Just saw it. That is twisted.

[3catsanadog]

What's troubling is that the Rats won't let go of the Guard issue, until something like this is shown to them. But then they'll want to know the voter registration party of the scientists and if they are GOP, we're back to square one.

[YaYa123]

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Future AP article: "Chris Mathews' great great great great grandson, Christoper Mathews, says; "Scooter Livvy planted those footprints!"

[FormerACLUmember]

Ann Coulter agrees with you. She notes that Bush's "AWOL" is immune to all evidence. It is a paranoid delusion, unmovable with any logic or data, like global warming.

[Prodigal Son]

Michael Moore has lost it. I don't know if it's because his endorsed candidate- Clark- is out or what, but he has gone over the edge.

[Charles H. (The_r0nin)]

You *can* prove some negatives when you can exhaust all possibilities in a set.

For instance, how can I prove that the red ball isn't in my black box that holds 20 balls?

Well, if I take out every one of all 20 balls, and none of them are red, then I have just proven a negative.

Well, technically speaking, what you have done is prove a series of positives. After removing each ball, you can say "This ball is black." After the series, you can inductively reason that "All of the balls are black," and therefore deductively reason that none of the balls are red, with all of the problems that Karl Popper pointed out with induction inherent in your reasoning. But most hypotheses are based on sample sets well short of the entire set (and most scientific hypotheses actually investigate an infinite set), and so the statement that you cannot prove a negative is a good rule of thumb in almost all situations.

[soozla]

SHAME ON THE VULTURES WHO PREYED ON THIS GOOD MAN, TURNING HIS ILLNESS INTO THEIR "ASSET", to slander our President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[soozla]

I think the "memo" scandal - starring Senator Rockafeller - will bear this out!!!!