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Darwin's evolution ship 'found'
The Age ^ | February 15, 2004 | AAP

Posted on 02/14/2004 6:55:32 PM PST by yonif

Edited on 02/14/2004 7:04:03 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

British archaeologists believed they have finally located the long-lost remnants of HMS Beagle, the ship which took Charles Darwin on the voyage during which he formulated the theory of evolution, a report says.

The fate of the Beagle, which carried Darwin for five years from 1851, has remained a mystery for more than a century.

However, according to The Observer, archaeologists using advanced ground-penetrating radar think they have found it buried under mud in a river estuary in Essex, south-east England.

"I am quietly confident we have found the Beagle," marine archaeologist Robert Prescott of Scotland's St Andrews University told the newspaper.

The radar image shows a ship similar in size to the Beagle - which was used as a customs boat after Darwin's voyage - lying under three metres of mud near a long-abandoned dock, Prescott said.

"Most of the upper part of the ship may have gone, but we have the lower part and hull, and who knows what remnants of Darwin's trip may still lie down there," he said.

"That is why this ship is so intriguing."

Darwin's voyage took him on a lengthy surveying trip of South America and the Galapagos Islands.

From notes he took about differences in birds and animal life, Darwin concluded that species change gradually over time through a process of natural selection, which benefits those best adapted to their environment.

His ideas were published in 1859 in On the Origin of Species, attracting vehement criticism from Christians before eventually becoming accepted as one of the most important scientific theories in history.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: biology; crevolist; darwin; discovery; exploration; hmsbeagle; science; ship; shipwreck; theory
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To: AdmSmith
HMS Beagle Pong
21 posted on 02/14/2004 7:25:44 PM PST by nuconvert ("Progress was all right. Only it went on too long.")
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To: yonif
Was Piltdown Man listed among the passengers?
22 posted on 02/14/2004 7:27:13 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: weegee
Was Piltdown Man listed among the passengers?

Yes. Sharing a cabin with Emelia Ehrhardt.

23 posted on 02/14/2004 7:32:17 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: codyjacksmom
He had a degree in Theology from Cambridge I believe. He was a brilliant scientist/naturalist that had friends like biology professor John Stevens Henslow and geology professor Adam Sedgwick. Look them up. Darwin was always a Christian...much to the chagrin of SOME here.
24 posted on 02/14/2004 7:32:56 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: PatrickHenry
Should we take bets on which part of the ship we will find them? LOL
25 posted on 02/14/2004 7:38:50 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope; codyjacksmom
Darwin was always a Christian

He's buried in Westminster Abbey.

26 posted on 02/14/2004 7:43:34 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: PatrickHenry
Thank for the reminder. I forgot about The Three Scientists

I'll be forgetting about the Sacred Crown's Supreme Representaive-General of the Holy Orthodox Patriachal Imperiality, His Pontifical Eminence the Most Venerable Prelate Monseignor, the Zambourian Nouri, John Joseph, Prince of Nouri, DD, LLD(by Divine Providence), Chaldean Patriachal Archdeacon of Babylon and Jerusalem, Grand Apostolic Ambassador of Malabar, India, and Persia next.

27 posted on 02/14/2004 7:50:24 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (It is always tempting to impute unlikely virtues to the cute)
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To: PatrickHenry
She didn't happen to have a copy of Howard Hughes' will with her, did she?
28 posted on 02/14/2004 7:52:09 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: yonif; Alamo-Girl
If it was used as a customs boat afterwards and is nearly rotted away, why in the world would anyone think, as the article says, "who knows what remnants of Darwin's trip may still lie down there."

I'm guessing someone's trying to restore it because of their religion.....and it's first prophet.
29 posted on 02/14/2004 7:52:32 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of it!!)
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To: codyjacksmom
I think that is an urban legend.
30 posted on 02/14/2004 7:54:58 PM PST by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: bethelgrad
I recalled having read the following at several sources:

It has been supposed that Darwin renounced evolution on his deathbed. Shortly after his death, temperance campaigner and evangelist Lady Elizabeth Hope claimed she visited Darwin at his deathbed, and witnessed the renunciation. Her story was printed in a Boston newspaper and subsequently spread. Lady Hope's story was refuted by Darwin's daughter Henrietta who stated, "I was present at his deathbed ... He never recanted any of his scientific views, either then or earlier."

found at

http://www2.lucidcafe.com/lucidcafe/library/96feb/darwin.html

31 posted on 02/14/2004 8:16:53 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: msdrby
ping
32 posted on 02/14/2004 8:19:52 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Spirit & Opportunity~The race is ON! Which will find the first Martian trout stream.)
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To: VadeRetro
Looks like the whole gang's back, including batman.
33 posted on 02/14/2004 8:22:06 PM PST by js1138
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To: yonif
A tortoise Darwin brought to Australia on board the Beagle is still alive today.
34 posted on 02/14/2004 8:26:06 PM PST by Rebelbase (The gravy train makes unscheduled stops.)
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To: dead
LOL! ;)
35 posted on 02/14/2004 8:43:00 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PatrickHenry
Thanks for the ping!
36 posted on 02/14/2004 10:25:19 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: xzins
I'm guessing someone's trying to restore it because of their religion.....and it's first prophet.

Indeed. Thanks for the ping!

37 posted on 02/14/2004 10:32:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: codyjacksmom
Lot's of people "get religon" when they face the grim reaper and the final judgement.
38 posted on 02/14/2004 10:45:06 PM PST by UbonGhostrider
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To: UbonGhostrider
To bad so many people can't do it while they're living so they can actually live their lives and not just exist.
39 posted on 02/14/2004 11:07:43 PM PST by codyjacksmom
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To: codyjacksmom
To bad so many people can't do it while they're living so they can actually live their lives and not just exist.

...which is why you must give your life over to Zeus instead of that young Galilean pretender! :-)

Ok, seriously, does anyone here know if Darwin's theory of how atolls & barrier reefs were formed turned out to be correct? He came up with his theory during the voyage after the Galapagos, when the Beagle was travelling thru Malaysia, Indonesia, & the Indian Ocean. It's a very slick piece of reasoning, and I never heard of it until I read Voyage of the Beagle.

40 posted on 02/14/2004 11:23:25 PM PST by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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