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Alleged Kerry Affair with Intern Draws Media Attention
Talon News ^ | February 13, 2004 | Jimmy Moore

Posted on 02/13/2004 5:53:30 AM PST by new cruelty

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To: labard1
I'd love to see Fox finally start a 6:30 national news telecast. Does anyone forsee this ever happening? Tony Snow or Brit Hume could host. CBS/NBC/ABC are already experiencing a decline in viewership, just imagine the possibilities if Fox got in the game.
101 posted on 02/14/2004 12:53:20 AM PST by mdw278
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To: mdw278
Check that. Snow and Brit are great, but Shepard Smith might be a better 6:30 host. Shep would give Fox a younger, hipper look, in contrast to tired, old Rather and Jennings.
102 posted on 02/14/2004 12:59:31 AM PST by mdw278
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To: thesummerwind
Your argument would be more forceful if the hostility of the media were new. It's not, it's just more shrill today. That's more indicative of the fact that the leftists in the media are losing.

Beginning with FDR in the 1930s, the Dems controlled both houses of Congress, most state legislatures, governors, and, of course, the presidency. Today Republicans control both houses of Congress (by fingertips in the Senate, of course), most state legislatures, a majority of governors, and the presidency. That happened with a hostile media and school system and college faculties.

The Republicans have not yet really begun to fight the 2004 general election. If we can let the Dims kill each other for a while, Republican fire will be more effective in the fall.
103 posted on 02/14/2004 7:54:47 AM PST by labard1
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To: labard1
Your argument would be more forceful if the hostility of the media were new.

I hear you, but one thing you "optimistic types" (if you don't mind me saying so) seem to not understand is the VOLUME of media that hits people in America today vs. 60-70 years ago when there was just a radio. And you also forget that Americans today are much more self-absorbed and intent on self gratification, and they seek no information, so they are more easily influenced by surface news coverage of events by the liberal media.

It's a real uphill struggle, and I think it may be lost.

We have to work, all of us.

104 posted on 02/14/2004 8:01:40 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
"We have to work, all of us." You're right there. That's something about which we agree.

Unfortunately for the rest of your argument, the VOLUME of the media has been more than radio for a long time. The Republican landslide of 1994 happened notwithstanding all the media we have today (except the INTERNET, which is mainly OUR media). Likewise for every election since then.

And, no, I don't mind your calling me an optimist. I'm hopeless. I would long ago have tuned out politics or started using drugs if I weren't.

I remember when Barry Goldwater in 1960, after losing the GOP nomination to Nixon, made his "Conservatives, Grow Up" speech. I remember the debacle of Goldwater's defeat in 1964, and the disaster of the Johnson administration. I remember the Watergate era and its aftermath. Having lived through those dark days, I have a hard time today refraining from laughing with pleasure at the current situation. (Actually, I can't restrain myself-- though my unhappiness with domestic spending and some other domestic policies keep me from believing nirvana is here.)

Life is always a struggle, and civilization is always one generation from destruction, but pardon me if I giggle at the level of your fear that all is lost. I mean that in the nicest possible way, but your level of pessimism is just funny.
105 posted on 02/14/2004 8:37:34 AM PST by labard1
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To: labard1
level of your fear that all is lost

If you're going to misrepresent my posts I will stop replying. I did not indicate or write that "all is lost" (as you foolishly claim), or I wouldn't have written that we should all work for victory!!! Got it?

but your level of pessimism is just funny.

From that ridiculous remark, this 57 year old says your level of comprehension is not funny, it is merely minimal!

106 posted on 02/14/2004 9:19:56 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
I apologize. I did not intend to be offensive or to misrepresent your posts. I'm trying to get you out of your funk. You're being unduly pessimistic based on any objective external standard.

We're both on the same side, and I'm seeking political outcomes similar to those you seek. I sincerely regret saying anything that you may perceive as hurtful. It was not so intended. My style is often flip, and it can lead to misunderstandings. I'm too old to get rid of some old habits. For that I apologize.
107 posted on 02/14/2004 9:32:42 AM PST by labard1
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To: labard1
It's cool. My apologies too!

I have a storefront, and in it is a sign............

Vietnam Vets Not Fonda Kerry

108 posted on 02/14/2004 9:42:19 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
Cool.
109 posted on 02/14/2004 9:48:37 AM PST by labard1
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To: thesummerwind
One other good sign. You probably know that there are electronic markets where people bet on who will win elections (among other things). Take a look www.intrade.com , which has a reasonably active market. The price of the Bush contract reflects the likelihood of his winning the November election. Today that price is 63.5 (which equates to an almost 2-1 probability of a Bush win).

The Iowa Electronic Market is older, but doesn't yet have a contract as clear in meaning as this one. The historical record of accuracy in the electronic market is better than the polls. Even though the amounts of money bet are modest, it is real money that people are winning or losing, so they tend to be more realistic than polls where nothing is at stake in the answer for most respondents.
110 posted on 02/14/2004 11:16:28 AM PST by labard1
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To: labard1
The price of the Bush contract reflects the likelihood of his winning the November election. Today that price is 63.5 (which equates to an almost 2-1 probability of a Bush win).

Great!

And the wooly caterpillars last fall indicated a Bush win too! Just kidding. ;)

Gotta go! Take care.

111 posted on 02/14/2004 11:31:10 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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