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To: RadioAstronomer
I didn't know the moon was receding. It it going to leave orbit anytime soon, like in the next few thousand years? How fast is it receding?
24 posted on 02/13/2004 7:10:57 AM PST by Quick1
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To: Quick1
Indeed it is. Sigh, I don't have time to post in detail at the moment, but will when I get home this evening.
25 posted on 02/13/2004 7:12:52 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Quick1
If the Earth's rotation had slowed down slightly, the Moon must have gained the angular momentum to conserve the total angular momentum of the Earth-Moon system. This boost in angular momentum for the Moon would have caused it to spiral slowly outward from the Earth to a more distant orbit where it travels more slowly.

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But what would cause the Earth's spin to slow? Tides.

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How long will that take? With the Moon receding at 1.5 inches a year, the last total solar eclipse visible from the surface of the Earth will take place 620 million years from now. There is still time to catch one of these majestic events!

The Extinction of Total Solar Eclipses

29 posted on 02/13/2004 7:29:40 AM PST by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: Quick1; RadioAstronomer
A clarification: when "RadioAstronomer" said "indeed it is" he was referring to the fact that the moon is receding, NOT that it would leave earth orbit.

The moon gains orbital angular momentum at the expense of the earth's rotational angular momentum; the result is the moon gets farther away, and the earth's spin slows down. I'm sure RA will explain the details when he gets back online later today.....

89 posted on 02/13/2004 10:47:38 AM PST by longshadow
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To: Quick1; Elsie
Sorry for taking so long to post. :-(

Currently, the evidence points to a catastrophic collision of another body with the Earth not long after the formation of the Earth. This collision is what is believed to have formed the Moon. Originally the Moon was much closer to the Earth and its period did not match its rotation. Over the years the Moon has become tidally locked with the Earth resulting in the Moon keeping one face to the Earth (Its rotation on its axis matches the period of its orbit). This tidal locking will eventually cause the Earth and Moon to keep one face to each other since the Earth is affected by tides as well. (However, under current stellar evolutionary theory, the Sun will go nova before this happens)

Here is a more in depth explanation. The total angular momentum of the earth moon system, which is spin angular momentum plus the orbital angular momentum, is constant. (The Sun plays apart also) Friction of the oceans caused by the tides is causing the Earth to slow down a tiny bit each year. This is approximately two milliseconds per century causing the moon to recede by about 4 centimeters per year. As the Earth slows down, the Moon must recede to keep the total angular momentum a constant. In other words as the spin angular momentum of the earth decreases, the lunar orbital angular momentum must increase. Here is an interesting side note. The velocity of the moon will slow down as the orbit increases.

Another example of tidal locking is the orbit period and rotation of the planet Mercury. What is interesting about this one is that instead of a 1:1 synchronization where Mercury would keep one face to the Sun at all times, it is actually in a 2/3:1 synchronization. This is due to the High eccentricity of its orbit.

There also can be more than one body “locked” to each other. Lets take a look at the moon Io. Io is very nearly the same size as the Earth’s moon. It is approximately 1.04 times the size of the moon. There is a resonance between Io, Ganymede, and Europa. Io completes four revolutions for every one of Ganymede and two of Europa. This is due to a Laplace Resonance phenomenon. A Laplace Resonance is when more than two bodies are forced into a minimum energy configuration. Currently, the evidence points to a catastrophic collision not long after the formation of the Earth. This collision is what is believed to have formed the Moon. Originally the Moon was much closer to the Earth and did not face one side to us like it does now. It has been receding ever since.

404 posted on 02/16/2004 7:17:02 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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