San Francisco Officials Marry Gay Couple

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[BurbankKarl]

February 12, 2004, 2:57 PM EST

SAN FRANCISCO -- In a political and legal challenge to California law, city authorities officiated at the marriage of a lesbian couple Thursday and said they will issue more gay marriage licenses.

The act of civil disobedience was coordinated by Mayor Gavin Newsom and top city officials and was intended to beat a conservative group to the punch.

The group, Campaign for California Families, had planned to go to court on Friday to get an injunction preventing the city from issuing marriage licenses to gay couples.

[concerned about politics]

If homosexuals can marry, so can NAMBLA members. Instead of hunting down young boys, they will be able to legally adopt their sexual boy toys.
God help the poor boys who will end up being tortured and sexually abused by these vile creatures.
We wouldn't be able to save the kids from their hell because of the Texas Sodomy law..

[kellynla]

And every ambulance chaser in BH including Gloria Alred will be trying to represent the queers...LOL...this is all about "winning the lottery" in a court settlement. Who cares what a couple of queers do in their bedroom...their Maker will be the final Judgment on their so called "marriage."

[WinOne4TheGipper]

By the authority granted to me by God and the State of California me and myself, I now pronounce you er....ahhh....d*mn

[concerned about politics]

I now pronounce you er....ahhh....d*mn

"It and It. You may now kiss the orifice of your "choice."

[Truthsayer20]

"In some countries, such as northern European nations, gay marriage is legal."

Actually, gay unions are NOT designated as "marriages" in most countries where they are legal. America would actually "lead" the world in legalizing gay marriage.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

LOL!

[NYFriend]

They can

[KC_Conspirator]

They could have ceremony knighting someone "Supreme Comander of the Universe" and give them a certificate and it would mean just the same - nothing.

[george wythe]

A future liberal Supreme Court (or maybe this one, depending on Kennedy or O'Connor) could force this on the other states by way of the Full Faith and Credit Clause.

Does a concealed carry permit from Florida will be accepted in Massachusetts?

I doubt it. The Full Faith and Credit clause has plenty of loopholes.

Furthermore, a liberal Supreme Court can find that European law or the UN Charter of Human Rights overrides the US Constitution, amended or not, and gay marriage is an alienable right.

I think that amending our precious documents to fight liberal judges is not adequate. We need a conservative-leaning President and Senate, not a ERA-like amendment that will never be ratified.

The problem you correctly identified is liberal judges. We need to elect a few conservative Senators with a backbone who will be leaders in the US Senate, instead of caving in to Democrats on the Judicial Committee.

In my humble opinion, ten Jesse Helms will do more in the US Senate for conservatives that any amendment to the US Constitution.

On the other hand, perhaps this talk about a constitutional amendment will help reelect Bush, especially if it helps energize the Republican base.

[You Dirty Rats]

I think you are confusing the California Supreme Court (a State court) with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals (a Federal Court, one step below SCOTUS).

[Mr. Lucky]

...they're not married unless the marriage is recognized by the State.

They're not marriage unless the marriage is recognized in the eyes of God. I believe His opinion on this matter is well known.

[jwalsh07]

Article IV

Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

No mention of Sweden or any other Eurosocialists in the US Constitution.

[puroresu]

George, I wish I could agree with you on states' rights grounds, but I can't.

Below is a post I made on another thread earlier today regarding why gay marriage can't be confined to one state (such as Massachusetts, but the same would be true for California):

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I keep trying to warn people that if gay marriage is allowed to become law in Massachusetts, it will spread like a disease across the rest of the country.

Many of the people who use the "states' rights" argument for opposing a federal marriage amendment don't seem to fathom the dynamics at work here. They act as if the only consequence of gay marriage in Massachusetts will be gay marriage in Massachusetts.

But if gay marriage is allowed to stand in Massachusetts, it's inevitable that certain things will follow.

Other states have leftist state Supreme Courts. No doubt the justices on those courts are watching the Massachusetts case carefully. If gay marriage survives there, look for three or four other state courts to order gay marriage within a year or so, triggering more battles.

Because New England is geographically compact, huge pressure will occur on the other five states to recognize Massachusetts gay marriages. It isn't "fair", it'll be argued, that a gay couple from Boston can't rent a summer cottage in Maine and have their gay status validated there as well. It isn't "fair" that a lesbian who lives in Massachusetts but works in Providence doesn't have Rhode Island spousal legal protections for her "wife".

There will be a constitutional challenge to the Defense of Marriage Act, as already noted many times, under the full faith & credit clause.

It will quickly be argued that married Massachusetts gays are "prisoners" confined to one state because they can't move without losing their marital status. Some gay guy from Boston will claim he has an excellent job offer from a company in Omaha, but can't accept it because his marriage wouldn't be recognized by law in Nebraska.

Big corporations, who seem enraptured by the gay agenda, will jump on the bandwagon, claiming they're losing out on recruiting great employees from Massachusetts because the laws elsewhere don't permit gay marriage. So there's your equal protection 14th amendment argument for voiding all laws against gay marriage.

Sad as it may be to some people, there can be no stopping gay marriage from spreading nationwide once it gets established in even one state. It'll be all or nothing. Either a federal amendment banning gay marriage, or a federal judicial fiat imposing it everywhere.

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[concerned about politics]

Homosexuals can already marry if they want. They have the same access to marry as anyone else. Find someone of the opposite sex and do it.
They choose a fetish instead. If they choose a fetish, that's their choice.
If they want to get married, choose a different lifestyle. It's simple. They're not being denied anything. They're denying themselves.

They're doing this to ruin the day of natural love for normal people. They must be miserable people at heart.

[GeronL]

Let not the law and reality get in the way

[concerned about politics]

If homosexual marriage passes, remember, NAMBLA members can marry and legally adopt their boy sex toys. They can adopt lots of them, and share them with each other. The Texas Sodomy law would stop any investigations. The homosexuals will be allowed to freely molest their victims at will.

[george wythe]

Why are foreign marriages accepted in the US? Do you happen to know the constitutional basis for it?

Several years ago, José became a US citizen, but he was still not married. He said that he couldn't find a good woman in America, so José went to México, married Juanita, and had a big wedding reception at Juanita's village.

José went to the US consulate in Guadalajara, filled out several papers, and waited a few months. His wife, Juanita, came to the US four months later.

Mario came to the US and married an American citizen. After Mario became a US citizen, he divorced his American wife and became involved in drug shipments from Latin America.

The US Attorney could not get Mario for drug trafficking, but he got Mario for bigamy. The US Attorney prosecuted Mario because he had been married in Colombia, and without divorcing his Colombian wife, he moved to America and married an American.

Mario said he had been separated from his Colombian wife even before he came to America, and he thought that foreign marriages did not count in America. He was convicted of bigamy.

Real life examples.

[concerned about politics]

According to the sexually dysfunctional at DUmmies, the same is going to be attempted in Houston tomorrow.

Their ignoring all the nations laws. It's a homosexual fascist take over?

Homosexuals are criminally insane. They're seriously mentally ill.

[expatguy]

"Only an unmarried male and an unmarried female may marry in California."

California Marriage License, Registration and Ceremony Information

Complete disregard for the law?

If two homosexuals can get married. Why can't two 15 year olds (boy and girl) get married? Because it is illegal? That does not seem to stop homosexuals.