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TOWN OF TONAWANDA (NY) MAN RECALLS PRESIDENT BUSH AS A YOUNG PILOT IN TRAINING IN NATIONAL GUARD
wgrz (Local NBC; Buffalo, New York) ^ | Feb. 12, 04 | none given

Posted on 02/12/2004 7:37:35 AM PST by twas

A Town of Tonawanda man says he remembers George Bush working just as hard as any other young pilot in training when he served in the National Guard.

Jack Lang is a retired police officer who was an Air Force flight instructor in 1968 at Moody Air Force Base in Georgia. He was one of eight instructors for Bush and other who were learning how to fly jet fighters for various units including the Air National Guard in Texas.

Lang says he knows none of the instructors would cut any student a break in the training because they all needed to know how to fly the supersonic planes with the possibility they could be sent into combat.

Lang says he was not Bush's primary instructor but he flew several times with Bush on training missions in jets. He described Second Lt. Bush and other pilots as sharp as tacks with quick reactions and thinking prowess to fly the jets.

Lang says many Air Force pilots did not go to Vietnam because some were assigned to air defense units or with other missions like flight instructor.

Lang says he is an acquaintance who has been in contact with Bush through the White House but he says these are his true recollections of Bush as a young pilot back then.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: awol; bush; jacklang; militaryrecord; nationalguard
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1 posted on 02/12/2004 7:37:37 AM PST by twas
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To: twas
Tell that to these freaking idiots...


http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/02/12/bushs_loss_of_flying_status_should_have_spurred_probe/



Bush's loss of flying status should have spurred probe
By Walter V. Robinson and Francie Latour, Globe Staff, 2/12/2004

President Bush's August 1972 suspension from flight status in the Texas Air National Guard -- triggered by his failure to take a required annual flight physical -- should have prompted an investigation by his commander, a written acknowledgement by Bush, and perhaps a written report to senior Air Force officials, according to Air Force regulations in effect at the time.

2 posted on 02/12/2004 7:39:05 AM PST by kcvl
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To: twas
Brave man to out himself. Sure hope he knows the press is about to check him out.
3 posted on 02/12/2004 7:39:41 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Better yet...hopefully this will snowball for the President.
4 posted on 02/12/2004 7:41:41 AM PST by God luvs America (Howard Dean is a deranged lunatic!!)
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To: God luvs America
Well Drudge is proclaiming "CAMPAIGN DRAMA ROCKS DEMOCRATS" could be something is, has, or is going to hit the fan.

I just hope this guy knows that speaking out in a positive way will not earn him respect by Jfkerry and his media whores.

From New York of all places.
5 posted on 02/12/2004 7:45:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: kcvl
As 'Nam wound down, in 1972 through 1975, the AF was BEGGING pilots to get out of the flying business, and was BEGGING those who were promised flying "slots", such as me, not to hold them to their committment. I did not oblige them, and was finally put on active duty for pilot training in Dec'75. The AF was certainly happy for any flyer to leave, and, regardless of any out-dated "regulations" in effect, was not going to have any type of "investigation" of some pilot obliging them.
6 posted on 02/12/2004 7:48:22 AM PST by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: Just mythoughts
From New York of all places.

Ever been in NY?

7 posted on 02/12/2004 7:52:31 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Cobra64
Yes, a few times, have a sister upstate NY. NY is hillary/shummer/rangel/bjclinton/bloomberg etc...., country, and I hear that there is a vast difference from the city dwellers and the rural people.

That is true of every state, unfortunately people who live in the cities vote liberal, which does give the rest of the population a bad reputation.

8 posted on 02/12/2004 7:58:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: AFPhys
"As 'Nam wound down, in 1972 through 1975, the AF was BEGGING pilots to get out of the flying business, and was BEGGING those who were promised flying "slots", such as me, not to hold them to their committment."

I was in the opposite boat. When Vietnam was ramping up, I was in AFROTC, but due to bad eyes, I couldn't qualify for a flight-active slot, so was asked NOT to go into the "advanced" ROTC program (as a chemist, I could have qualified for a "techie" slot). I took my chances with the draft and found I was 4F due to bad hearing.

9 posted on 02/12/2004 8:00:29 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Just mythoughts
Relax with that "from NY" crap...I'm from NY and there are plenty of Republicans who support the President here.
10 posted on 02/12/2004 8:15:35 AM PST by God luvs America (Howard Dean is a deranged lunatic!!)
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To: twas
only a couple miles from me.. I should look this guy up..
11 posted on 02/12/2004 8:18:49 AM PST by The Mayor (Be steadfast, immovable, . . . knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.)
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To: eleni121
Tonawanda Ping!
12 posted on 02/12/2004 8:19:40 AM PST by The Mayor (Be steadfast, immovable, . . . knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.)
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13 posted on 02/12/2004 8:23:17 AM PST by Consort
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To: God luvs America
I think a lot of people think of New York as "New York City" as in Manhattan. When we lived in Albany, we got a lot of that when people came to visit. "You mean there is countryside here?" And the politics are different outside of NYC, too.
14 posted on 02/12/2004 8:58:01 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Hon
This is another one that might interest you.
15 posted on 02/12/2004 8:59:30 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious
Thanks. But you know that other thread is about a Guardsman who saw Bush in ALABAMA, which has always been the part of the story that has been under suspicion.

It just amazes me that nobody seems to have noticed that there is a WITNESS to him doing his Guard duty in Alabama.

The case is closed.

(What will happen of course is that the media won't bring it up again until the 11th hour, right before the election--when the Bush side won't have time to point out the facts again.)
16 posted on 02/12/2004 9:24:29 AM PST by Hon
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To: Just mythoughts
Tonawanda is one of those pockets of decent, relatively conservative, people that exist in UPSTATE and WESTERN New York.
17 posted on 02/12/2004 9:29:22 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: bc2
upstate ping
18 posted on 02/12/2004 9:35:17 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: AFPhys
I use to give a hand to pilots thrown out of AF at end of Nam affair. Lt Col on down. Used, abused and thrown away. Bitter they were.
19 posted on 02/12/2004 9:36:57 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
There is no doubt that there are many good people in the state of NY. Living in fly over country I can understand how they always get overlooked.

This wasn't a blame the good people of NY post, rather the irony of how the media presents the good people of NY being Clintons, Schummer, Rangle, & etc...

The media has been orchestrating the JFKERY campaign and how they see NY, this is my description of what is presented to us via cable stations out of NY.
20 posted on 02/12/2004 9:37:46 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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