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GOP Infighting Fills Our Enemies with Joy ((The Stupid Party getting even stupider)
The Times-Picayune [New Orleans] ^ | February 12, 2004 | James Lileks [Newhouse News Service]

Posted on 02/12/2004 7:32:47 AM PST by quidnunc

Let's just be blunt: The North Koreans would love to see John Kerry win the election. The mullahs of Iran would love it. The Syrian Baathists would sigh with relief. Every enemy of America would take great satisfaction if the electorate rejects the Bush doctrine and scuttles back to hide under the U.N. Security Council's table. It's a hard question, but the right one: Which candidate does our enemy want to lose? George W. Bush.

And some conservatives will be happy to help, it seems.

Woe and gloom have befallen some on the right. Bush has failed to act according to The Reagan Ideal.

The actual Reagan may have issued an amnesty for illegals, but the Ideal Reagan would have done no such thing. So unless Bush packs freight cars full of gardeners and dishwashers and dumps them off at the Mexican border, some voters will just sit this one out.

The Ideal Reagan would have eliminated the National Endowment for the Arts; the actual Reagan proposed a $1 million increase in his final budget. But Bush increased NEA funding. So angry conservatives might just sit this one out.

And if a Democrat takes office, and the Michael Moores and Rob Reiners and Martin Sheens crowd the airwaves on Nov. 3 to shout their howls of vindication? If the inevitable renaissance of Iraq happens on Kerry's watch, and the economy truly picks up steam in the first few years before the business cycle and Kerry's tax hikes kick in? If emboldened Islamist terrorists smell blood and strike again? Fine. Maybe the next Republican president will do everything they want.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; alqaedavote; conservatives; kerry
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To: Howlin
It's all about attention, they come here to whine and cry to attract attention to themselves.

They're victims of George W. Bush, they've been betrayed, we've all been betrayed ......... Sound familiar? I think I heard Al Gore singing the same blue's the other day

81 posted on 02/12/2004 8:33:17 AM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: RockyMtnMan
Actually FR represents a small fraction of his base

Actually, FR does NOT represent his base at all; there are way more right wing zealots on here than there are in the real Repubican Party.

82 posted on 02/12/2004 8:34:17 AM PST by Howlin
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To: MJY1288
If they feel betrayed, they are admitting they didn't pay attention in 2000; and if they're betrayed, it's because THEY projected their tunnel vision agendas onto Bush and expected HIM to think just like they do.

They forget he's the president of ALL the people of this country, not just them.
83 posted on 02/12/2004 8:35:50 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Jim Cane
I'll write in Tancredo, just the same.

And, since he's not running, you'll help to turn him into a loser which his next opponent will exploit. What did Tancredo ever do to you?

84 posted on 02/12/2004 8:36:39 AM PST by Consort
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To: Howlin
What always kills me is that they say "That's it, I'm not voting for him" LOL, When I that posted, I'm wondering if their keyboard will malfunction for all the tears dropping on it
85 posted on 02/12/2004 8:38:42 AM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: Howlin
Like I said a small fraction. The Republican's usually enjoy support from most of the right of center voters unless they stray from their beliefs. Once the Republicans stray from their core beliefs the voters threaten to withhold votes or go thirdparty. Normally this would cause the Republicans to lean back to the right. Now that "we have no where to go" they are less inclined to "lean to the right".
86 posted on 02/12/2004 8:40:19 AM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: KantianBurke
Go to Newt.org,scroll down to transcript of NBC news special..concerning Bush and his SOTU.
87 posted on 02/12/2004 8:41:50 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04...for the sake of our nation)
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping. I am not familiar with James Lileks but I know The Times-Picayune [New Orleans] newspaper. I'm surprised to see such a pro-Bush article from a anti-Bush city, however, I'm glad to see it.
88 posted on 02/12/2004 8:42:05 AM PST by Texagirl4W (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: Howlin
Are 2000 illegals coming in evey week? Are the borders even close to being shup down? Do they come in to get on welfare and health care, which our tax dollars will have to pay? When they become capable of overturning your vote are you even going to care?

Don't call my facts a hysterical reaction.

89 posted on 02/12/2004 8:42:35 AM PST by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos)
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To: Consort
And, since he's not running, you'll help to turn him into a loser which his next opponent will exploit. What did Tancredo ever do to you?

I can't make you or anybody a loser. You either one already are or will never be one. If one is worried about being swayed by my mere say so, I suggest that such an individual falls into the "already" category, and as such, can only be made a "little less" of a loser.

I'm going out for a cowboy burger and a sam adams now. Back later. We'll tawwwk.

90 posted on 02/12/2004 8:44:46 AM PST by Jim Cane (Vote Tancredo in '04)
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To: swampfox98
Kerry will put troops along the borders and arm every citizen,declare open season and stop the invasion!/sarcasm
91 posted on 02/12/2004 8:46:04 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04...for the sake of our nation)
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To: swampfox98
What do you think is going to happen to the Republican party then? What do you think is going to happen to Bush's accomplishments then? Or do you even think beyond party lines?

I really don't care about the Republican Party. If you have a candidate in mind who can accomplish what the President has as well as take the stand on immigration and jobs you support, bring 'em on.

By the way, can you please point me to where the President has invited every illegal (who wouldn't be here illegally if they had an invitation) to take over our jobs or when he will be proposing citizenship? If you truly want a solution that has an ounce of political viability it would be helpful to be accurate.

92 posted on 02/12/2004 8:47:31 AM PST by Dolphy
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To: AFPhys
I will vote for Bush and the Republicans this time, since the Democrats are worthless. But beyond 2004, people here are going to see that many of the things I have been saying are going to come true. Alas, too late.
93 posted on 02/12/2004 8:48:15 AM PST by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos)
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To: Jim Cane
I can't make you or anybody a loser.

If you and other like you write him in and he loses, then, politically, he will be labeled as a "loser". Yes? No?

94 posted on 02/12/2004 8:50:23 AM PST by Consort
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To: Dolphy
If you truly want a solution that has an ounce of political viability it would be helpful to be accurate.

You want solutions? I'll give your solutions: Close down the border and deport illegals who aren't working. Stop making every child born of illegals an American citizen. Stop the insane spending spree in Washington. Fight for conservative judges and kick Orin Hatch's arse back to Utah. Fine companies who are outsourcing American jobs, and stop the love affair with one world government socialism. The President is the leader and he can do these things if he chooses. He doesn't chose.

Want more?

95 posted on 02/12/2004 8:54:08 AM PST by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos)
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To: q_an_a
I wish the President was vetoing spenidng bills, but he did not and jsut like parents who wish they made different decisions it doesn't mean he won't fix them in the next round.

The proposals Bush has given to the nation and Congress in his first term is what scares me to death about his second term.

96 posted on 02/12/2004 8:58:50 AM PST by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos)
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To: swampfox98
You sound like a hysterical woman.

Read the article in this thread -- they're talking about YOU!
97 posted on 02/12/2004 9:00:13 AM PST by Howlin
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To: MEG33
Kerry will put troops along the borders and arm every citizen,declare open season and stop the invasion!/sarcasm

Oh I'm impressed. This is so typical of Republican thinking. My party regardless of the facts.

98 posted on 02/12/2004 9:02:30 AM PST by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos)
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To: swampfox98
Modern-Day Know-Nothings

The Rise, and Fall, of a Fervid Third Party
In the 1850s, a burgeoning coalition of self- proclaimed nativists, or Know-Nothings, swept into office and called out for radical change

Writer Robert Wernick illuminates a little-known corner of American history in his exploration of 19th-century America's enigmatic and contradictory Know-Nothings. That odd assortment of political bedfellows, constituting the most successful third party — outside of the pre-Civil War Republicans — in the nation's history, makes for a strange chapter in our political annals.

The nativist movement, championing the so-called rights of Protestant, American-born male voters, grew out of fear about new waves of immigration, and about the future. From 1820 to 1845, the arrival of newcomers to our shores had been steady — 10,000 to 100,000 a year. Then immigration surged: from 1845 through 1854, some 2.9 million immigrants, including 1.2 million Irish and more than a million Germans, poured into seaboard cities like Boston and New York. These strangers were impoverished and disease-ridden, easy fodder for the burgeoning coalition of nativists. Membership in the new third party soared: by 1854, when the Know-Nothings formed the American Party and won offices nationwide in that year's election, they had scored an impressive coup.

Once they took on the hard work of enacting legislation, though, the Know-Nothings too became mired in political reality. Although they had transcended their own xenophobic rhetoric and tried to achieve desirable reforms, their accomplishments were transitory.

(Abstract of an article by Robert Wernick in Smithsonian, November 1996)
http://www.smithsonianmag.si.edu/smithsonian/issues96/nov96/knownothings.html

We've seen this kind of hysterical, nativist rhetoric before.

It was a loser then and it's a loser now.

99 posted on 02/12/2004 9:03:42 AM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: swampfox98
We agree to disagree.
100 posted on 02/12/2004 9:04:39 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04...for the sake of our nation)
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