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There's a pattern here that reminds me of 1992... when rational voters were confident in a Bush Sr. victory, abeit a squeaker. Here's a question... do you think American voters have become more or less rational since 1992?
1 posted on 02/12/2004 4:18:13 AM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7
It's early..The campaign is young,Kovak does not like Bush.

We had many long thread on Bush's record and the rebuttal of these charges...Let others do the rebuttal on the AWOL thing.The records are released.

The nastiness is going to backfire.Ann Richards called George Bush "Shrub" during the Governor's race.He called her Gov.Richards.Guess who won?
2 posted on 02/12/2004 4:27:06 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04...for the sake of our nation)
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To: johnny7
America's Traitor [but a hero to Democrats in their War on the War for Enduring Freedom] reads from his DNC sheet again.

So what.

3 posted on 02/12/2004 4:32:24 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: johnny7
When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.

The President is wrong to allow the Dems to keep making WMD an issue for justification of the war.

He needs to address it once, convincingly, and drop it -- never rise again to the baiting.

He needs to stop responding to this crap about being AWOL. He needs to lambaste the Dems who choose to quibble about where he was on what day 30 years ago, but yet defended Clinton's "loathing" of the military.

Bush needs to condemn their obvious duplcitous behavior just one time, convincingly, and then drop it -- do not respond to the bait again.

Instead, let the Dems dig their own hole trying to defend Kerry's alliance with Hanoi Jane.

Bush needs to focus on his own issues, not the issues the Dems raise as a red flag.

Bush needs to revive the tenets of the Contract With America. Of course, his strategists won't want to call it that - but, that's what he needs to do - it sweep the GOP to the House in '94.A lot of hardwaorking Americans out in middle America, flyover country, who are working hard, paying way too much in taxes, struggling to keep their heads above water, believe in the tenants of the Contract With America -- even if their categorize themselves as Democrats. They are patriotic and they'll vote for what they believe sets the correct course for America.

For the most part, they support the war -- it's their children over there fighting it. They don't really care about the WMD debate, or who was where 30-40 years ago. They're looking to the future and what's best for America -- Bush needs to tell them his plan.

Contract With America

1994

As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.

That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.

This year's election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public's money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.

Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act "with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right." To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.

On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:

FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;

SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;

THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;

FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;

FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee; SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;

SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;

EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.

Thereafter, within the first 100 days of the 104th Congress, we shall bring to the House Floor the following bills, each to be given full and open debate, each to be given a clear and fair vote and each to be immediately available this day for public inspection and scrutiny.

1. THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT

A balanced budget/tax limitation amendment and a legislative line-item veto to restore fiscal responsibility to an out-of-control Congress, requiring them to live under the same budget constraints as families and businesses.

2. THE TAKING BACK OUR STREETS ACT

An anti-crime package including stronger truth-in-sentencing, "good faith" exclusionary rule exemptions, effective death penalty provisions, and cuts in social spending from this summer's "crime" bill to fund prison construction and additional law enforcement to keep people secure in their neighborhoods and kids safe in their schools.

3. THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT

Discourage illegitimacy and teen pregnancy by prohibiting welfare to minor mothers and denying increased AFDC for additional children while on welfare, cut spending for welfare programs, and enact a tough two-years-and-out provision with work requirements to promote individual responsibility.

4. THE FAMILY REINFORCEMENT ACT

Child support enforcement, tax incentives for adoption, strengthening rights of parents in their children's education, stronger child pornography laws, and an elderly dependent care tax credit to reinforce the central role of families in American society.

5. THE AMERICAN DREAM RESTORATION ACT

A $500 per child tax credit, begin repeal of the marriage tax penalty, and creation of American Dream Savings Accounts to provide middle class tax relief.

6. THE NATIONAL SECURITY RESTORATION ACT

No U.S. troops under U.N. command and restoration of the essential parts of our national security funding to strengthen our national defense and maintain our credibility around the world.

7. THE SENIOR CITIZENS FAIRNESS ACT

Raise the Social Security earnings limit which currently forces seniors out of the work force, repeal the 1993 tax hikes on Social Security benefits and provide tax incentives for private long-term care insurance to let Older Americans keep more of what they have earned over the years.

8. THE JOB CREATION AND WAGE ENHANCEMENT ACT

Small business incentives, capital gains cut and indexation, neutral cost recovery, risk assessment/cost-benefit analysis, strengthening the Regulatory Flexibility Act and unfunded mandate reform to create jobs and raise worker wages.

9. THE COMMON SENSE LEGAL REFORM ACT

"Loser pays" laws, reasonable limits on punitive damages and reform of product liability laws to stem the endless tide of litigation.

10. THE CITIZEN LEGISLATURE ACT

A first-ever vote on term limits to replace career politicians with citizen legislators.

Further, we will instruct the House Budget Committee to report to the floor and we will work to enact additional budget savings, beyond the budget cuts specifically included in the legislation described above, to ensure that the Federal budget deficit will be less than it would have been without the enactment of these bills.

Respecting the judgment of our fellow citizens as we seek their mandate for reform, we hereby pledge our names to this Contract with America.

4 posted on 02/12/2004 4:39:59 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: johnny7
All you need ask yourself is...."who,would the terrorists vote for"?

This election will be all about the security of our great nation, regardless, IMHO, what the left says.

5 posted on 02/12/2004 4:42:19 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: johnny7
In '92, voters got mad at Bush and shot themselves in the foot (screwing things up for the rest of us in the process) and some of those fools are talking about doing it again this year.
6 posted on 02/12/2004 4:46:38 AM PST by Consort
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To: johnny7
it is still early in the campaign; W is no George; let the dems yack on about wmd's and national guard service... if there is one thing America is good at, it's getting bored with an old story... W is playing rope-a-dope with the libs; the libs are thrilled that kerry has taken off the gloves, but the more he talks about vietnam, the more his past will rear its ugly head... kerry's going to have a tough time getting the tar off his hands now
10 posted on 02/12/2004 4:59:46 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Remember, God made you special and He loves you very much!)
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To: johnny7
Oh please.

Novak, the Dark Prince, is full of it. He never was too fond of Bush, and he's an Arabist to boot. So the war in Iraq bothered him.

11 posted on 02/12/2004 5:04:57 AM PST by veronica ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
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To: johnny7
no offense, but Novack is nutz
17 posted on 02/12/2004 5:11:32 AM PST by The Wizard (Democrats are treasonous)
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To: johnny7
Bush suffers from the ivory tower syndrome common to most elites. He is aloof, and deaf, to those outside his protective circle. Karl Rove is his Rasputin.
23 posted on 02/12/2004 5:24:37 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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Novak is full of it. I'm tired of his constant curmudgeonly carping. Shouldn't he be testifying somewhere regarding his leaking of classified info? I still think that he intended to harm this administration.

If the sky is falling around Bush, why is the current worst-case scenario 50 percent approval and a tie w/Kerry? If Bush has been so horrible and this is the worst the polls can reflect, I say he's in pretty good shape.
30 posted on 02/12/2004 5:51:13 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: johnny7
Here's a question... do you think American voters have become more or less rational since 1992?

Good question. Emotion certainly overrode rational thought in '92 and '96. Hopefully 9-11 caused many to realize that our very survival is riding on our choice in leaders now, and rationality will trump emotion in '04.

32 posted on 02/12/2004 6:09:13 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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The president did not lash back by exposing Kerry's unsavory record in the antiwar movement's extreme wing following his heroic service in Vietnam.

Of all the idiotic complaints. What a disaster that would have been. Of course the president didn't "lash back" and bring up Kerry's unsavory record then.

It's coming out now, though.

39 posted on 02/12/2004 6:30:02 AM PST by cyncooper
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1/2 of voters are idiots. I hate that some ignorant bastard who doesn't pay any income tax and is on welfare gets to cancel out my vote.

No votes for deadbeats!
45 posted on 02/12/2004 6:43:13 AM PST by petercooper ("daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime" - Nicole Gelinas, 02-10-04)
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To: johnny7
written by a liberal Bush hater, for liberal Bush hater consumption. Too many liberal cliches', especially that overly used-by-Clinton word "juggernaut" when defining the Republican party...
58 posted on 02/12/2004 7:15:38 AM PST by grumple (I'm too old to worry about whether or not I'm a pain in your ass...)
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To: johnny7
Bush has several advantages compared to his father.

1. His opponent is Kerry and Kerry isn't a tenth as slick as Clinton.

2. W cut taxes, his father raised them, creating a lot of anger in his base.

3. The economy is doing significantly better than it was in '92.

4. There will be no sucking sound from a third party candidate (Perot).

5. The dems will likely have to deal with their own third party problems with Nader,Dean or possibly both.

61 posted on 02/12/2004 7:23:12 AM PST by Brett66
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To: johnny7
Bush is not on the defensive, and showed that. Folks who always pull the lever for the (non-)Democratic Party will see whatever they want, and shoot their ignorant mouths off as they always do. All conservatives have to do is show up on Election Day and the single party state advocating, party above all enemy will lose.
The Tonight Show
guest Dennis Miller
You know something, this is — this stuff has got to stop, somebody's got to say something good in this community about this man. I'm starting a new web sit, pro-Bush, called www dot w. And you know something, if you're watching tonight, President Bush, and I'm not sure you are because I got a feeling you watch the national network reruns of "BJ and The Bear," but if you're watching, I want to just say, I think you're doing a hell of a job and I'm proud that you're my president. I want to thank you and wish you Godspeed because you got a tough deal of the cards. I think there are a lot more people out here on your side than you would think.

66 posted on 02/12/2004 7:37:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: johnny7
For now, however, the president is in political retreat,

And I don't understand it. If he is still under the presumption that he can win the votes of independents and/or democrats by being 'Mr. Nice Guy', he's very wrong. Nice guys finish last.

I want a president that has the guts to stand up to the Democrats and their lies... Quit pandering, hoping for more votes. Instead it is going to cost him Republican votes...

67 posted on 02/12/2004 7:37:58 AM PST by CommandoFrank (If GW is the terrorist's worst nightmare, Kerry is their wet dream...)
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