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Conservatives Need to Get Real
The Intellectual Conservative ^
| 02 February 2004
| Scott Shore
Posted on 02/11/2004 11:00:20 AM PST by Lando Lincoln
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Lando
To: Lando Lincoln
I think we realize that to be true. Im hammering my friends on the need to vote this time around.
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:03:03 AM PST
by
cripplecreek
(you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
To: cripplecreek; FairOpinion; gatorbait
Here is something I wrote a few days back to our FRiends FairOpinion and gatorbait. I hope to expand on it when I have a few spare minutes. I don't wish to belabor it, but it seems germane to this article.
Lando
To: cripplecreek
It is interesting how the Bush supporters are no longer making the same old excuses. They used to claim that "if only the GOP controlled the Congress and the presidency" small government would be enacted. Now....they don't even have that excuse.
To: Austin Willard Wright
Now it's "Just you wait til we get 60 seats in the Senate!" When and if we do, I'm sure they will think up some other excuse.
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:10:04 AM PST
by
Sloth
(We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
To: cripplecreek; FairOpinion; gatorbait
First rule...do not rush, do not rush, do not rush. Here is the post I referenced.
I said it was simple, not short. But, I believe history will tell us that the leadership from this administration has been remarkable in the face of incredible pressures. This president has the press/media always looking for weakness, the left and democrats are constantly undermining his efforts, many of our so-called allies abandoned the U.S. at a critical time of need, and, the UN was worse than worthless. At a time when the economy was reeling from a cyclic recession coupled with the costs of September 11. Yet, through it all, we have removed a despot, planted the seeds for democracy in the swamp of the Middle East, and the economy is on the upswing.
And I think this gets overlooked sometimes this President and his advisors understand POLITICS. Tim Russert said last nite on the Dennis Miller Show that demographics have changed considerably since the 2000 election. More elderly, more minorities, more urban voters, etc. Russert said that if the 2000 vote were held with todays demographics, GWB would lose the popular vote by over 3 MILLION votes!!! That struck me. It is easy to carp from the relative security of the sidelines over GWBs proposed immigration plan, or his changes to the prescription drug plan, or his proposed social security changes, or even the Patriot Act. But this President knows that to see his WOT through his potential 8 years in office, he must appeal to those margin groups that the democrats have so successfully exploited since at least FDR. To do otherwise is to surrender the 2004 election at great peril for our nation. I believe, with all my heart that our President understands this intuitively, instinctively and intellectually. I cant imagine a Hillary or a Gore or a Kerry or a Dean or an Edwards in charge over our very survival.
So I ask, what is the real cost of GWBs proposed spending?
My new best FReeper FRiend has it right (apologies to all my other best FReeper Friends). This is the most important election cycle since 1940. I will vote for GWB and the republican ticket. If I were to do otherwise, I would be denying my young sons what I believe is the best shot at a secure future.
Lando
To: Lando Lincoln
If we reward Bush with unearned support, we will get 'more of the same'. Shrieking that "the Democrats are coming!" is just a bogeyman tactic, and a false one at that since the RINOs are already here.
Bush is not a conservative; he's not even much of a Republican; who he resembles most closely is FDR, who was strong on defense but saw federal programs as the best way to deal with the country's problems.
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:15:34 AM PST
by
Grut
To: Lando Lincoln; PhiKapMom; Mo1; onyx; Wolfstar
bump and ping to your #6
Prairie
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:15:49 AM PST
by
prairiebreeze
(WMD's in Iraq -- The absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.)
To: Grut
Bush is not a conservative; he's not even much of a Republican; who he resembles most closely is FDR,A FDR republicans bump, or since he's supposedly a Texan now maybe a LBJ republican bump.
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:23:11 AM PST
by
steve50
("Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." -H. L. Mencken)
To: prairiebreeze; Lando Lincoln; PhiKapMom; My2Cents; Neets; windchime; ohioWfan; Tamsey
Thanks for the ping.
Lando, you're a smart and savy young man. Good to know you and to know you're one of us.
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:25:36 AM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: Lando Lincoln
He's got my vote this time around, although I am unhappy with his spending, at least the House looks like they'll take it on.
2008? We'll have to see.
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:27:18 AM PST
by
eyespysomething
(There is no threat. The Communists are not about to take over our McDonald hamburger stands. JFK '71)
To: Austin Willard Wright
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:30:01 AM PST
by
KantianBurke
(Principles, not blind loyalty)
To: Grut
Yep. And if he loses, maybe the next Republican to be elected will think twice before abandoning the base of conservative voters.
Or more likely, they'll just keep doing what Bush is doing now, and be one-term presidents. They never learn.
To: Grut
Yep.
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:32:46 AM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Lando Lincoln
Good job, Mr. Lincoln!
Not everyone here is a Kerry supporter although it seems like it in this thread so far.
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:36:00 AM PST
by
Columbine
(Bush '04 - Owens '08)
To: Lando Lincoln; prairiebreeze
Bravo, Lando, for writing with such conviction and clarity of thought. Your post is very encouraging to me. Maybe it's only the late winter doldurms, but I've been discouraged lately. With all the carping from those who claim to be on the right side of the political divide in this country, I fear we may be on the verge of putting yet another 60's radical into the presidency.
People seem to have forgotten the devastating legacy of the Clinton presidency if they ever really understood that legacy at all. But Bill Clinton is not an idealogue. Kerry is. If we think Clinton's presidency was bad, we ain't seen nothing yet if Kerry gets in.
The idea that this nation would be so foolish as to install Kerry as president just three years after the events of late 2001 is just devastating to me.That every single right-of-center person in this country isn't standing up and working as hard as they can for GWB's re-election is mind-boggling. I am beginning to think that perhaps right-of-center people are genuine paper tigers.
I mean, they are the ones who always claim to be strong on defense. They always claim to want to march to the borders to keep the illegals out. They are the ones who talk tough about the 2nd Amendment, and religious freedom, and so on. But the left keeps winning. Why? Are the Republican leaders in Congress the only empty suits on the right? Or is it maybe that they are that way because we in the right-of-center grassroots are empty suits, too?
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:38:11 AM PST
by
Wolfstar
(A self-confident cowboy nation, or a Kerrified nation. Your choice.)
To: Henrietta
They never learn.
THEY never learn?!! Puhleeze. If that isn't the laugh of the day, I don't know what is. Who never learns? It seems to me the answer is as clear as the posts on this thread from you, AWW, and others.
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:43:14 AM PST
by
Wolfstar
(A self-confident cowboy nation, or a Kerrified nation. Your choice.)
To: Lando Lincoln
dittos. I've been on board.
To: Lando Lincoln
"But this President knows that to see his WOT through his potential 8 years in office, he must appeal to those margin groups that the democrats have so successfully exploited since at least FDR. To do otherwise is to surrender the 2004 election at great peril for our nation."
You mean like how Reagan did in 1984? Please.
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posted on
02/11/2004 11:54:18 AM PST
by
Terpfen
(Hajime Katoki. If you know who he is, then just his name is enough.)
To: Wolfstar
"THEY never learn?!! Puhleeze. If that isn't the laugh of the day, I don't know what is. Who never learns? It seems to me the answer is as clear as the posts on this thread from you, AWW, and others."
I learned that if you keep voting for Dem lite, you'll continue to get Dem lite. Now that Bush has unmasked himself as Dem lite, I'll not vote for him.
If you want to, be my guest. As I said, they never learn!
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