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Dr. Bob Arnot’s Parting Shot [Fired by NBC for reporting truthfully?]
New York Observer ^ | February 11, 2004 | Joe Hagan

Posted on 02/11/2004 8:46:01 AM PST by aculeus

Bob Arnot, the medical doctor turned foreign correspondent for MSNBC and NBC News—the onetime chief medical correspondent "Dr. Bob" on NBC News, who has been filing prickly, Geraldo-like dispatches from Iraq—has been conspicuously absent from TV lately. Dr. Arnot’s contract was up at NBC in December 2003 and, according to the network, won’t be renewed in the foreseeable future.

Dr. Arnot did not leave willingly.

Although personal, his departure has also exposed the divides over TV coverage of the war in Iraq.

In a 1,300-word e-mail to NBC News president Neal Shapiro, written in December 2003 and obtained by NYTV, Dr. Arnot called NBC News’ coverage of Iraq biased. He argued that keeping him in Iraq and on NBC could go far in rectifying that. Dr. Arnot told Mr. Shapiro that NBC had alienated the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad since it shot and then aired footage of correspondent Jim Miklaszewski at the scene of the November bombing of the Al Rashid Hotel, in which a C.P.A. staffer was shown injured. That incident, he wrote, "earned the undying enmity of the C.P.A."

"We’ve been at a significant disadvantage given NBC’s reputation in Iraq," Dr. Arnot wrote Mr. Shapiro. He argued that due to his excellent relationships with military and C.P.A. personnel, NBC News could repair its standing with government authorities by airing more of his material.

"I’m uniquely positioned to report the story," he wrote. "NBC Nightly News routinely takes the stories that I shoot and uses the footage, even to lead the broadcast," but "refuses to allow the story to be told by the reporter on the scene."

In other words, he suggested, NBC News did not like putting him on the air.

Dr. Arnot included excerpts from an e-mail from Jim Keelor, president of Liberty Broadcasting, which owns eight NBC stations throughout the South. Mr. Keelor had written NBC, stating that "the networks are pretty much ignoring" the good-news stories in Iraq. "The definition of news would incorporate some of these stories," he wrote. "Hence the Fox News surge."

Reached for comment, Mr. Keelor said that he was "not lambasting anyone" and that NBC News "indicated they were sensitive to the issues." But he added, "Of course it’s political. Journalism and news is what unusual [events] happened that day. And if the schools are operating, they can say that’s usual. My response to that is, ‘The hell it is.’ My concern there is that almost everything that has occurred in a Iraq since the war started is unexpected."

That pretty much summed up Dr. Arnot’s attitude as well. In his letter to Mr. Shapiro, he wondered why the network wasn’t reporting stories of progress in Iraq, a frequently heard complaint of the Bush administration. "As you know, I have regularly pitched most of these stories contained in the note to Nightly, Today and directly to you," he wrote. "Every single story has been rejected."

Reached at home in Vermont, Dr. Arnot said Mr. Shapiro was no longer interested in his kind of coverage. "On the MSNBC side, they’ve been very generous and they want me back," he said. "But from the NBC vantage point, Neal neglected to put any money into the pot, and that’s the reason I’m not back in Baghdad."

Did Mr. Shapiro respond to his e-mail? "That particular e-mail, I didn’t get any response," he said. "There was an earlier e-mail, and the response said, ‘We’re just too strapped. We don’t have the money to be able to afford the editorial oversight.’"

Dr. Arnot said he knew for "a fact" that Mr. Shapiro’s problem with his reporting was that "it was just very positive."

Mr. Shapiro responded by e-mail, saying that NBC News had re-evaluated its coverage for 2004, determined that "we were in the post-war period in Iraq" and shifted its resources to political coverage.

"Given that we were well covered in Iraq with regular correspondents, we explored other options with Bob, which to this point have not resulted in a new agreement …. Any implication that NBC News has been reluctant to cover the rebuilding story in Iraq is absolutely ridiculous," Mr. Shapiro wrote, citing pieces on "the reopening of schools" and on how the 101st Airborne "reorganized the north and has very good relations there." Mr. Shapiro added that the Center for Media and Public Affairs found NBC News to be the most balanced among the networks. "I am proud of our coverage, and feel absolutely comfortable with the way Bob Arnot’s reporting was utilized by the network."

A number of high-ranking military officials contacted by NYTV complimented Dr. Arnot’s superior reporting skills, especially in light of what they perceived as the chronically negative war reporting on TV in the United States. Larry DiRita, the Pentagon spokesman for Donald Rumsfeld, said that Dr. Arnot captured Iraq as he experienced it when he visited there himself. "It was complex and nuanced and uneven then, and you had to get around to see it that way—and he does," Mr. DiRita said. "I think his coverage provided an aspect of daily Iraqi life that is being missed by a heck of a lot of coverage."

Maj. Clark Taylor e-mailed NYTV from Baghdad to state that Dr. Arnot "highlighted what is really happening over here …. He generally reported positive things because, generally, that is what is happening. Of course there are occasional bad things … and he reported those as well. The fact was, he reported what he saw—which generally was positive."

"As you probably know, he is quite a renaissance man (doctor, athlete, TV journalist, etc.)," wrote Maj. Gen. David H. Petraeus in an e-mail, "and the ‘Screaming Eagles’ (the nickname for the 101st’s soldiers) really took to him. Our soldiers and leaders were particularly pleased that he demonstrated so much interest in the nation-building endeavors that were carried out by our troopers and our many superb Iraqi partners."

Another military official, Brig. Gen. Mark Hertling, said he and his colleagues had recently done an assessment of the 37 reporters they’d worked with, determining which ones they liked and which ones they didn’t. "Thirty-seven different reporters we talked about, and we decided who we would really like to go to war with in the future, or who we would like to drink a beer with later on," General Hertling told NYTV. "I won’t tell you that number," he added, laughing, but he did say Dr. Arnot was at the top of the list.

In his e-mail to Mr. Shapiro, Dr. Arnot argued that his relationships with the authorities earned him access to stories that other reporters couldn’t get.

"I was the only reporter to be shown the actual list of terrorists found in Saddam’s briefcase," he wrote. "The military even let me witness the capture of one of the leaders of the insurgency … a major general in the Baathist military wing."

And Mr. Shapiro had a number of complimentary things to say about Dr. Arnot, calling him an "intrepid live reporter."

But in the halls of NBC News, a number of insiders at the network said, Dr. Arnot was seen as a cheerleader for the military and the C.P.A. Some questioned his accuracy as a reporter.

In 1998, Mr. Arnot’s best-selling book, The Breast Cancer Prevention Diet, came under intense scrutiny from medical watchdogs for its broad claims—so much so that both the American Cancer Society and Memorial–Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York City complained of inaccuracies and misstatements in Dr. Arnot’s book. "In the end, there were no technical faults with the book," said Dr. Arnot.

In 2001, Dr. Arnot—then chief medical correspondent for NBC’s Today show and for Dateline NBC—gave up his stethoscope and donned a flak jacket for some foreign adventures.

Dr. Arnot’s friendship with MSNBC president Erik Sorenson, a colleague from his days at CBS, helped transform him into a special foreign correspondent after Sept. 11, 2001. He made his way to dangerous hot spots like Sudan and Somalia, writing about his adventures for Men’s Journal; in 2003, he went to Baghdad and embedded with the First Marine Expeditionary Force.

"There was a lot of pressure to make sure that Fox didn’t win the war," said an NBC insider familiar with Dr. Arnot’s work. But, the insider said, NBC "didn’t have correspondents who wanted to fight that war." Dr. Arnot was willing and able. He said he had risked his life many times for MSNBC and NBC News. And he was very friendly with the military.

In his e-mail, Dr. Arnot revealed the kind of thing he would offer NBC if he was allowed to stay: "At the end of the war I scrubbed in on an operation to save a young girl hit by a grenade. As a female surgeon closed her abdomen at the end of the operation, I asked if the child would survive. She said, ‘Yes she will, she is the future of Iraq.’ She also survived because a US Army sergeant took the ticking grenade from her hand and turned away from her. The girl survived because of his heroism. At my request, the Army sent a Blackhawk helicopter to evacuate a four and a half year old girl with 55 percent burns … under fire … and protected by two Apache gunships. These stories never made air on NBC.

"What happens if NBC is wrong[?]" he wrote. "What happens if this is a historical mission that does succeed … that transforms the Middle East … that brings peace and security to America. What if NBC’s role was like that of much of the media in general … allowing the terrorists to fight their war on the American television screen, where their stories of death and destruction dominate rather than that of American heroes?"

Dr. Arnot became popular with military leaders in Iraq and with the C.P.A. in Baghdad. A high-ranking C.P.A. official said Dr. Arnot "was visible, he was active, he told a compete story," adding that NBC News had effectively stopped reporting on Iraq, leaving a single Pentagon reporter, Mr. Miklaszewski, in Baghdad. "NBC doesn’t really cover the Iraq story," the official said. "They don’t have serious resources on the ground. If they did, they would cover the release of the Zarqawi memo with a reporter on the ground," referring to a document that the U.S. military said demonstrates an Iraqi insurrection orchestrated by Abu Musab Zarqawi, a terrorist that the White House has linked to Al Qaeda.

"It’s been over six months since Brokaw has been here," the official added. "There are over 120,000 troops on the ground and there’s no real NBC presence."

Dr. Arnot told NYTV: "I’ve been attacked many times—once with guns, once with swords. Once was at the al-Aike Hotel when it was blown up. There have been no journalists who have been purposely attacked. And the bomb was right under my window. We were attacked with swords down in Najaf. It was a 10 seconds’ difference between being hacked down …. And just before Christmas, I was basically ambushed with assault weapons in Abu Ghraib in the middle of the night. That was a bad situation. It’s a very dangerous thing. My mother is saying, ‘I don’t think it’s the smart thing for you to be out there.’"

Dr. Arnot’s e-mail to Mr. Shapiro claimed that the Sept. 25, 2003, bombing of the al-Aike Hotel in Baghdad—where NBC employees were stationed at the time—was aimed directly at him. "I’ve been targeted on several occasions," he wrote, recalling "a bomb placed directly under my window at the IKE [sic] hotel resulting in several shrapnel wounds."

Dr. Arnot’s enthusiasm occasionally got the best of him, said NBC News staffers, such as when Dr. Arnot—who claimed he knew how to speak Arabic—tried his chops on some Iraqi barber-shop customers, asking them what they thought of a speech by President Bush. "He’s … telling them what Bush is saying in Arabic and then translating their responses live on the air," said one co-worker, who said that NBC translators "said he was talking gibberish."

"I was asking these guys yes-or-no questions, and this guy went on and on and on," said Dr. Arnot. "There are many kinds of Arabic … and am I good at understanding the Iraqi accent? No, I’m terrible."

NBC sources said that when the statue of Saddam Hussein was toppled in Baghdad, Nightly News anchor Tom Brokaw declined to put Dr. Arnot on the air, even though he was the sole NBC reporter on the scene. Instead, Mr. Brokaw aired a British reporter from a news agency called ITN. "They used ITN, their British affiliate … rather than someone on the NBC payroll," said the NBC staffer. "They don’t use his reporting because they don’t trust his reporting."

In November, Dr. Arnot reported a series for MSNBC’s Hardball, "Iraq: The Real Story," an effort to find the so-called "good news" stories that Ambassador L. Paul Bremer III and the C.P.A. had found lacking in the media. The C.P.A. was so distressed by network coverage that its senior media advisor, Dorrance Smith, created a separate government feed—an attempt to provide the kind of stories they wanted to local affiliates in the U.S.

Mr. Smith told NYTV that he had prompted MSNBC to do the Hardball series.

Dr. Arnot was not the first NBC employee to complain about coverage in Iraq. In fact, Noah Oppenheim, the producer of the Hardball series, a self-identified neoconservative and onetime producer for Scarborough Country, wrote an article for The Weekly Standard upon his return from his three weeks in Iraq, asserting that reporters rarely got out of the so-called Green Zone in Baghdad, and that they cribbed wire reports. Mr. Oppenheim left MSNBC when Nightly News executive producer Steve Capus and anchor Tom Brokaw complained openly that the article was unseemly coming from a NBC-affiliated news producer.

While Dr. Arnot’s fitness as a reporter may be under scrutiny, his criticism of NBC News does go to the heart of an ongoing issue in this election season, the media perception of the war in Iraq. On Sunday, Feb. 8, when Tim Russert asked President Bush on NBC’s Meet the Press if the administration had miscalculated "how we would be treated and received in Iraq," Mr. Bush’s responded that he disagreed with the premise of the question: "Well, I think we are welcomed in Iraq. I’m not exactly sure, given the tone of your questions, we’re not."

The exchange showed the distance between the White House and the media on how the war had been presented to Americans. They were two men watching different TV shows—Mr. Bush had his sources, and Mr. Russert saw what he saw.

And so did Dr. Arnot.

You may reach Joe Hagan via email at: jhagan@observer.com.


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To: facedown
Exactly. I have always thought Dr. Bob was rather non-liberal and I am truly not surprised to hear this.

YOOHOO!! Brit!!!! Over here!
121 posted on 02/11/2004 3:00:39 PM PST by lawgirl (God to womankind: "Here's Cary Grant. Now don't say I never gave you anything.")
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To: lawgirl; All
This story has been picked up by master-blogger Instapundit.

Let's hope it grows some legs.
122 posted on 02/11/2004 5:02:19 PM PST by aculeus (What I Wouldn't Give for a Large Sock with Horse Manure in it.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
123 posted on 02/11/2004 8:31:38 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: jpl
What a sorry day for so-called "mainstream journalism". We're rapidly approaching the point where anyone who doesn't toe the company/party line 100% won't be welcome in any news organization.

I'd say we are well past that day.
We could start a pool to see who guesses the date that John Stossel gets the boot from ABC.
124 posted on 02/11/2004 9:00:41 PM PST by Valin (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: Landru
...this ping's for you.

Hmmmm..... The good doctor has been doing news for the last few years? And doing a good enough job to be booted from NBC/PMSNBC? Arnot should feel honored; he sounds like a man of principle that got mixed up with a band of thieves.

BTW, did you catch this piece? The dissension in the ranks seems to be on the rise. Hope springs...

FGS

125 posted on 02/12/2004 1:08:14 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: aculeus
in the halls of NBC News, a number of insiders at the network said, Dr. Arnot was seen as a cheerleader for the military and the C.P.A. Some questioned his accuracy as a reporter

So much for the TRUTH. Instead they hire Deborah Norville to interview "celebrities".

126 posted on 02/12/2004 1:16:58 AM PST by kcvl
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To: CovenBuster
From Newsmax.com
Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:32 p.m. EST

Katie Couric: 'Hopefully' Saddam Made It to Syria

Is perky "Today" show host Katie Couric actually rooting for Saddam Hussein to survive the U.S. military's repeated attempts to take him out?

It sure sounded that way during a report she delivered on the fate of the Baghdad Butcher yesterday.

While chatting about Saddam with NBC's Pentagon correspondent, Jim Miklaszewski, the multimillion-dollar morning host asked whether U.S. officials had been able to "confirm reports he was taken to Tikrit, and then Mosul, and then hopefully to Syria."

Hopefully?

Surely Couric didn't mean to suggest that she actually hoped the brutal dictator would escape justice by fleeing to another terrorist-sponsoring state.

Or did she?

The full exchange went like this:

COURIC: Mik, we only have a few seconds left. But quickly, anymore information about Saddam Hussein's fate?

MIKLASZEWSKI: Not at all. Wild speculation. But U.S. officials insist they still don't know what happened when - after they bombed that site in western Baghdad earlier this week.

COURIC: So, they haven't been able to confirm reports he was taken to Tikrit, and then Mosul, and then hopefully to Syria.

MIKLASZEWSKI: That - that's very unlikely considering the kind of U.S. forces that are arrayed up there.

COURIC: OK, Mik. Thanks.


127 posted on 02/12/2004 1:24:54 AM PST by kcvl
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To: ForGod'sSake; Mudboy Slim; FBD; BraveMan
Ummmm, just exactly what in the hell *was* that site, FGS??
What *is* ABC/Note?

Surly it can't possibly be affiliated with ABC in any way, shape or form.
Here check this out, for example.
From the site you linked, I lifted this:
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NEWS SUMMARY

President Bush's biggest problem right now is ____________ (noun).

He is still quite popular with the Republican base, but it would be nice of the economy would create, say, ____________ (number) jobs before he faces the voters.

Dan Bartlett's television appearances in the last few days make us think of a ____________ (barnyard or circus animal), but Scott McClellan's ____________ (adjective) daily briefing yesterday gave us ____________ (involuntary, violent action).

"Strong Leadership in Times of Change" is a fantastic campaign slogan because it ______________________________ (long, wonky but clever explanation).

BC04 spokesgal Nicole Devenish's position that the Bush campaign took their ad-like video off of the campaign Web site after NBC complained about the use of "Meet" footage because "it's important to have good relationships with the people who are going to cover us this year" would be best taken to heart by ____________________________ (Kerry staffer who should know better).

Sen. Kerry now has ____________ (big number, size depending on which network you trust) delegates, which is around 1/4 of the total he needs to ____________ (verb) the nomination.

The thing most Democrats say Kerry lacks in order to put himself in a position to beat George Bush is a ____________ (noun), while others think he requires a ____________ (adjectival noun or body part) transplant.

Lucky for him, he will have the ____________ (adjective) David Wade with him on the road to help figure all this out.

Although Dean and Edwards will continue their campaigns until ____________ (cliché), ____________ (number exceedingly close to 500) of the Gang of 500 will now turn their focus to the Bush-Kerry match-up.

But ____________ (member of Gang of 500) thinks that a candidate who chooses to stay in the race "after the lights have gone out" shares the logic of ____________ (favorite children's book character).

Bush-Kerry will make the archive of the Yale Daily News ____________ (adjective), and the Bumiller-Betts relationship ____________ (adjective).

Garry Trudeau, on the other hand, will now become ____________ (mysterious adjective).

General Wesley Clark's campaign can be best summed up as ____________ (song title). Sen. Kerry's campaign can be best summed up as ____________ (movie title).

Maureen Dowd will say that Kerry is a ____________ (brand of car). The discussions within the Kerry campaign about how much access to give MoDo to Sen. Kerry will be ________________________ (adjective) and ___________________ (more intense adjective).

When asked about his military service in the 1970s, President Bush has replied ____________ (adv.) that he was in ____________ (name of desirable place).

Democrats now think that the Administration has ____________ (verb) jobs to ____________ (name of desirable place).

The 1972 Alabama National Guard has moved ____________ (proper noun) to ____________ (violent verb).

John Edwards' ____________ (noun) has moved ____________ (plural noun) to ____________ (soothing verb).

President Bush will tell his staff that ____________ (noun or man's name) would have to ____________ (verb) ____________ (adverb/pronoun) before he would agree to let the Commission on Presidential Debates dictate the terms and number of fall debates -- in fact, he will agree to just ____________ (very low prime number).

As for Kerry, to prepare for the debates, he will study tapes of Al Gore debating Bush, and resolve never to ____________ (verb other than "sigh").

The Bush-Kerry battle will also be fought over the airwaves, with both candidates making appearances on unconventional television show, with the President guest-staring on ____________ (WB or UPN program), and Kerry making a cameo on ____________ (second-rate reality show).

The press will begin to speculate about things such as the Kerry summer White House in ____________ (exotic place), and which one of them will somehow get into print the next off-the-record Bill Clinton dinner party talk about Kerry, with an emphasis on Kerry's ____________ (noun).

For Kerry, the campaign will be all about ____________ (noun), ____________ (noun), and Bob Shrum's ____________ (noun).

For Bush, it will be all about ____________ (noun), ____________ (noun), and Maverick Media's ____________ (adjective) ____________ (noun).

Bob Shrum has written ____________ (number) speeches in the last year. His best was delivered by ____________ (name of presidential, gubernatorial, or senatorial candidate).

Shrum, Devine, Donilon, would ____________ (adverb) beat the Glover Park Group at "It's Academic," but the folks at GPG would ____________ (verb) Shrum, Devine, Donilon at __________________ (intense competitive physical activity).

Both Bush and Kerry will trot out cross-party supporters -- besides Zell Miller -- with Kerry bagging ____________ (prominent left-leaning Republican) and the President winning over the support of ____________ (more prominent centrist Democrat).

"90210" is to ____________ (name of current primetime "drama") as 527s are to ____________ (noun).

Rep. Kucinich is so ____________! (name of favorite soap star).

Karl Rove is so ____________! (name of adult cartoon character).

The ____________ (adjective) Republican convention will be held in ____________ (adjective) New York, where the press will focus on _______________ (colorful metaphor). The ____________ (adjective) convention will be held in ____________ (adjective) Boston, where the press will focus on _____________________ (noun).

The Yankees will ____________ (verb) this season's World Series.

Sen. Kerry's eventual running mate will say the Red Sox and the Yankees are ____________ (plural noun /expletive).

On election day voters will base their decisions on ____________ (noun) and discount ____________, ____________ and ____________ (nouns).

Voters will come to see that the trait the two men running for President share above all else is ____________ (shocking noun).
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ABC et al couldn't have had anything to do with this.
It's wayyyy too honest but what's even worse, it gives away the Liberal-Socialist quisling-sychophant's *formula*.

Sorry, but *something* here smells to high Heaven.

...any thoughts?

128 posted on 02/12/2004 6:45:55 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: ForGod'sSake; bert; BraveMan; FBD; joanie-f
One thing before I forget, again, is to ask if either of you had heard the report some "Tribune" owned newspapers -- in New York, I believe -- are being sued to the tune of $100,000,000 by a group of *advertisers* who claim based on PHONEY circ numbers, they were overcharged for their ads??

Yea, & I also *think* I read where they alluded to the fact they can prove it, too.

That's the key to pulling the plug on the Liberal-Socialist LIARS who've taken over the nation's major dailies, kiddies.

We've all sensed for years who was it that'd be reading these Liberal-Socialist's pap & their monstrously distorted editorializing masquerading as "news", while concurrently asking ourselves why in the world would the advertisers go along with that kind of crap?

Reason is, these rags have been [grossly] inflating their circ numbers.
Numbers that're supposedly representative of a daily's reach & influence who then charge accordingly.

Sounds like in one case, the jig's up; moreover, I so would like to believe this lawsuit might result in newspaper's across the nation being *audited* from coast-to-coast & baorder-to-boarder; because, I'll bet either (or both) of you any $$ figure you want that this is not an isolated instance.
It's the rule.

I'll tell ya, guys.
It sure would explain the nuts & bolts behind the scam financing these insane Liberal-Socialists while keeping their capitalist stockholders happy, wouldn't it?

Ahhhhhh.
Smell it!!
Smell it??
I *love* that smell in the morning.

...smells like truth.

129 posted on 02/12/2004 7:24:52 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Landru
"I *love* that smell in the morning.
...smells like truth."


130 posted on 02/12/2004 8:15:53 AM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: Paradox; Diogenesis; TomGuy; LisaMalia; All
From Newsmax; Thursday, April 10, 2003

:
COURIC: “So, they haven't been able to confirm reports he was taken to Tikrit, and then Mosul, and then hopefully to Syria.”

The full exchange went like this:
COURIC: Mik, we only have a few seconds left. But quickly, anymore information about Saddam Hussein's fate?
MIKLASZEWSKI: Not at all. Wild speculation. But U.S. officials insist they still don't know what happened when - after they bombed that site in western Baghdad earlier this week.
COURIC: So, they haven't been able to confirm reports he was taken to Tikrit, and then Mosul, and then hopefully to Syria.
MIKLASZEWSKI: That - that's very unlikely considering the kind of U.S. forces that are arrayed up there.
COURIC: OK, Mik. Thanks.
[End of Excerpt]

131 posted on 02/12/2004 9:02:01 AM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: Diogenesis; The Wizard; CovenBuster; aculeus; All
Dio,
Please be careful to quote accurately, otherwise we all wind up with egg on our faces.

Regards.


From Newsmax; Thursday, April 10, 2003

:
COURIC: “So, they haven't been able to confirm reports he was taken to Tikrit, and then Mosul, and then hopefully to Syria.”

The full exchange went like this:

COURIC: Mik, we only have a few seconds left. But quickly, anymore information about Saddam Hussein's fate?

MIKLASZEWSKI: Not at all. Wild speculation. But U.S. officials insist they still don't know what happened when - after they bombed that site in western Baghdad earlier this week.

COURIC: "So, they haven't been able to confirm reports he was taken to Tikrit, and then Mosul, and then hopefully to Syria."

MIKLASZEWSKI: That - that's very unlikely considering the kind of U.S. forces that are arrayed up there.

COURIC: OK, Mik. Thanks.

[End of Excerpt]



132 posted on 02/12/2004 9:11:21 AM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: Landru
Ummmm, just exactly what in the hell *was* that site, FGS??
What *is* ABC/Note?

Interesting, no? But, I haven't a clue. The link to the ABC "Note" site was from an earlier post on this thread, which you'll recall you pinged me to. So, I became aware of the "Note" site for the first time last night. It's sortof a Drudge type format; ie, news items posted from around the world(?) without discussion(at least I didn't notice any message board). They could have just as easily called it ABC "Blog"? Curious. BTW, as you've noticed, they apparently don't archive their daily fare(at least not for public consumption), so anything they post there is gone with the wind unless its captured on sites such as FR.

ABC et al couldn't have had anything to do with this.

Har! Yeah, I noticed the fill-in-the-blanks "reporting" format. Entertaining wasn't it? These guys/gals are pretty good at spoofing their own it seems. Gotta wonder how long ABC will tolerate their foolishness.

...any thoughts?

Well, none that amount to anything, but being keenly aware of their fiscal problems, I'd say it's possibly a plan to increase their web presence in hopes of improving their overall share of the shrinking audience for network news(?). And doing it in such a way as to create a chuckle or two amongst their detractors(that's us) ;^). It that's the case, they overlook the obvious: Dump Petah and the rest of the head-in-the-clouds nanny state cheerleaders.

((shrug))IOW, beats me. I have trouble believing the muckity mucks at ABC are as clueless as they appear to be(to us at least), but it's possible. I have a suspicion the networks are maybe being played for suckers by the Madison Avenue types; ie, "We prefer warm and fuzzies as a backdrop for our products"? The "I'm from Washington and I'm here to help" makes way too many people feel really giddy. You know the type.

Well, soup's on; gotta run...

FGS

133 posted on 02/12/2004 9:24:41 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Landru
ABC et al couldn't have had anything to do with this.

The Note is run by Mark Helperin who is also Political Director of ABC.

He is also a contributor to WSJ.

Don't know when he joined ABC but he is definitely one of the good guys who wrote a brilliant WSJ piece during the first Gulf War urging that we take Baghdad.

Other facts: he's a novelist, a vet of Israeli army and once publicly apologized for not fighting in 'nam.

134 posted on 02/12/2004 9:31:28 AM PST by aculeus (What I Wouldn't Give for a Large Sock with Horse Manure in it.)
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To: aculeus
Thanks for this. I have wondered about Arnot. He did a great job.
I remember once seeing him speaking with the mother of an Iraqi child who had been injured at the time of the bombing of the restaurant, in which it was presumed Saddam had been. The number of civilian deaths and injuries reported following that incident, were much too high, but the media kept reporting what they were being told by pro-Saddam people. Arnot asked the woman if her child was injured as a result of the bombing. She said "no". That afterward, some Iraqis started shooting people at random, just to increase the civilian casualty numbers. I was more than surprised that MSNBC allowed that to air.
So, it's no surprise hearing the problems Arnot has been having with NBC.
135 posted on 02/12/2004 9:57:55 AM PST by nuconvert ("Why do you have to be a nonconformist like everybody else?")
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To: aculeus
"The Note is run by Mark Helperin who is also Political Director of ABC."
He is also a contributor to WSJ.

OK, Mr.G.
Your word's good as gold.

"Don't know when he joined ABC but he is definitely one of the good guys who wrote a brilliant WSJ piece during the first Gulf War urging that we take Baghdad."

Interesting.
Obviously pro-America & "conservative" looking from the outside looking in.

"Other facts: he's a novelist, a vet of Israeli army and once publicly apologized for not fighting in 'nam."

Quite a resume'.
Just begs one question, why's he in bed with ABC?
I can't imagine him being to long lived given the C&P above, assuming [that] was his work?
One would think one or more of ABC's [numerous] Liberal-Socialists must have this guy in their sights for whacking.

This has to be more than just a hit on an ABC competitor by this Mr.Halperin.
There's something more going on there, or, at least that was the feeling I came away with after my visit.
When's the last time anyone read such honesty in the print media lately; nevermind, coming from an ABC property.

Truly stumped.

...I keep thinking motive-motive-motive.

136 posted on 02/12/2004 11:27:24 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Willie Green
Are they?
137 posted on 02/13/2004 11:38:35 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (Dogs have masters; Cats have staff...)
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To: nutmeg
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138 posted on 02/18/2004 4:36:49 PM PST by Coleus (Vote for Bush and Traditional Marriage; http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4205947/)
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To: aculeus
Props, Bob. We won't forget.
139 posted on 02/19/2004 12:30:09 AM PST by unspun (The uncontextualized life is not worth living. | I'm not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate.)
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To: zip

ping


140 posted on 09/30/2004 4:01:43 AM PDT by zip ((Remember: pingDimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans))
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