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Actor's use of Connie draws flak [John Travolta and Save-A-Connie]
The Kansas City Star ^ | Wednesday, February 11, 2004 | MIKE McGRAW

Posted on 02/11/2004 6:57:43 AM PST by TroutStalker

“I am a little displeased about this, as are others on my staff, because we were left in the dark and what this has turned into doesn't benefit us at all.”Jim Dickerson, public relations director for the Airline History Museum


John Travolta
Courtesy of Airline History Museum
At an air show in Ohio last year, actor John Travolta partook of the amenities aboard the Airline History Museum's vintage Constellation.
TIM JANICKE/The Kansas City Star
The propellers on the lovingly restored Lockheed Super G airliner sliced through Missouri skies on a 2002 trip to an air show in Joplin, Mo.

A 50th birthday flight by actor John Travolta in Kansas City's premier vintage airplane has sparked a rift in the Save-A-Connie group as well as a federal inquiry.

Travolta and his entourage arrived in Kansas City on Friday, boarded the organization's four-engine Lockheed Super G Constellation and took off for Cabo San Lucas, a Mexican resort overlooking the Pacific Ocean.

Some members of the group complained the flight had the appearance of a charter and that the plane should have been grounded that day because of weather.

Save-A-Connie officials deny the trip was a charter flight, which would be improper for the nonprofit group. Contending that a few disgruntled members were behind the criticisms, they said they simply had given Travolta, an aviation enthusiast, a ride to an air show in Mexico.

The air show, however, was set up for the Travolta flight and only featured the Connie.

A spokesman for Travolta, who turns 50 on Feb. 18, confirmed the trip, but would not discuss it. Actor Dan Aykroyd, who covered expenses for the flight, could not be reached.

Some members of the group, also known as the Airline History Museum, questioned the flight Saturday at the organization's annual meeting. Critics said the Travolta flight was kept under wraps and should have been shared with other members and the media.

“I am a little displeased about this, as are others on my staff, because we were left in the dark and what this has turned into doesn't benefit us at all,” said Jim Dickerson, public relations director for the group. He said a number of complaints about the flight had been e-mailed to him.

Others at Saturday's meeting expressed concerns that the flight may have opened the organization up to complaints that it was improperly operating as a charter service and that bad weather Friday should have kept the plane grounded.

One member took those complaints to the Federal Aviation Administration, which opened a file on the matter Tuesday, said Rich Carlson, manager of the local FAA Flight Standards District Office. Carlson said he was looking into the complaints, as he would any other case.

“It's not like we're all jumping into our government cars and rushing down there,” he said. He added that museum officials had already agreed to turn over contracts and other documents that they said would show the plane was not “chartered” and did not fly in icy conditions, which it is not certified to do.

“My concern is not damaging the organization,” said Foe Geldersma, a retired Trans World Airlines pilot and president of the Airline History Museum. “If someone wants to tear hell out of me, that's fine. But let's not tear up the organization.”

The Constellation, with its distinctive triple tail and 123 1/2 -foot wingspan, was once TWA's main commercial aircraft. The museum's Connie was built in 1958, one of the last to come off Lockheed's assembly line in Burbank, Calif., but was never used by TWA.

It was originally acquired by another airline and later hauled cargo during the Vietnam War. The plane was found abandoned near Mesa, Ariz., in 1986. The discovery sparked the formation of Save-A-Connie, which restored the plane and decorated it in TWA livery. The plane is hangared at the museum, located at Wheeler Downtown Airport.

Geldersma said members were extremely careful with the plane and would never take a chance of flying it in dangerous conditions. Although the area was digging out from the snowstorm Friday, city aviation officials said they did not think conditions were icy.

Geldersma said Travolta, an expert pilot who once owned a Constellation, toured the Kansas City plane late last year at an air show in Dayton, Ohio, and relaxed in one of its berths. He told Geldersma he was fascinated with the plane partly because friends, such as Marlon Brando and Gene Kelly, had flown on such planes during their Hollywood heydays.

His attorney called later and said Travolta would love to fly in the plane, Geldersma said.

He said Travolta arrived on his Gulfstream jet on Friday, toured the museum, bought over $200 worth of items from the gift shop, then boarded the flight for Mexico. “We took him as a guest passenger to an air show, which is proper. He didn't pay us.”

Geldersma confirmed that the operating expenses of the trip had been paid by Aykroyd but would not reveal the amount.

Geldersma, who was on the flight crew, said Travolta's handlers did not want the media there. “He was a nice guy and tremendously enthusiastic,” Geldersma said.

The plane returned to Kansas City on Sunday, leaving Travolta behind.

Larry Brown, founder of the Save-A-Connie Group and a current board member, said the organization cannot operate as a charter service under FAA rules, so an air show was set up and sponsored in Cabo San Lucas, Travolta's destination, so that the trip could be made properly.

“As long as it was set up properly, there's no difference whether you go in the front door or the back door.”

Geldersma, Brown and others enthusiastically defended the trip, saying Travolta could be a great asset to the organization, perhaps becoming a member and even helping the group financially.

Similar trips were made in the past, they said.

Geldersma said some disgruntled members were probably unhappy that they don't get to fly in the plane as often as they would like. He said that it's a shame a member can file a complaint with the FAA and remain anonymous.

To reach Mike McGraw, projects reporter, call (816) 234-4423

or send email to mcgraw@

kcstar.com.


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I'm sorry to see the Save-A-Connie group involved in controversy, but it appears that even they make exceptions for celebrity.

I was working in another part of town on Friday, or I would have seen Connie take off. Her flight path is right over my back yard and you can hear her coming in time to go out and watch. Really awesome!

1 posted on 02/11/2004 6:57:44 AM PST by TroutStalker
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To: TroutStalker
Didn't this plane belong to Travolta originally anyway? I thought he donated it to the museum. He was planning to give it to the Smithsonian, and the museum approached him and told him they'd keep it flying, so he gave it to them instead.
2 posted on 02/11/2004 7:05:04 AM PST by Little Pig
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To: TroutStalker
There must be hundreds of EC-121s in the bone yard shoot save all of them they would have connies coming out of their wazoo.
3 posted on 02/11/2004 7:06:57 AM PST by boomop1
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To: Little Pig

The museum's Connie was built in 1958, one of the last to come off Lockheed's assembly line in Burbank, Calif., but was never used by TWA.

It was originally acquired by another airline and later hauled cargo during the Vietnam War. The plane was found abandoned near Mesa, Ariz., in 1986. The discovery sparked the formation of Save-A-Connie, which restored the plane and decorated it in TWA livery.

Geldersma said Travolta, an expert pilot who once owned a Constellation

4 posted on 02/11/2004 7:08:45 AM PST by TroutStalker (Whip me, strip me, tie me, fly me -- catch & release)
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To: TroutStalker
Travolta's never going to make a donation now! Someone just ticked off because they either didn't get to fly or didn't get to meet Travolta. I was with one of the largest flying museums in the US for a few years and this kind of in-fighting about who gets to fly and when went on constantly. When an influential outsider comes in asking to hop aboard on the next flight, it gets 10 times worse.
5 posted on 02/11/2004 7:21:58 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: TroutStalker
Here's a tip for the people who run non-profit aviation museums and restoration groups. If a multi-millionaire aviation enthusiasts stops by your place, give him a ride on anything he wants. If he wants to drive your wifes Miata - give him the keys.
6 posted on 02/11/2004 7:51:35 AM PST by azcap
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To: TroutStalker
This is what I get for not reading the whole article. He did donate his Connie to a museum though.
7 posted on 02/11/2004 7:56:06 AM PST by Little Pig
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To: azcap
You've got it exactly right. Travolta should not be seen as a "celebrity" who gets special treatment but as a weathy philanthropist who will consider making a donation. Many non-profits (universities, etc.) give red carpet treatment to the rich. Why? They want money. There's nothing wrong with it -- unless you want all the non-profits in the world to dry up and go away.

Does Bill Gates have an honorary degree from any university? He does? Shocking!!!! Why would they do that???? Oh, yeah, publicity and resulting charitable contributions. Carry on.

8 posted on 02/11/2004 8:01:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The only reason I don't question Kerry's patriotism is because I know it doesn't exist.)
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To: azcap
I guess I agree with you on that, afterall it isn't a government agency. But what if he wants to drive your wife?
9 posted on 02/11/2004 8:15:31 AM PST by TroutStalker (Whip me, strip me, tie me, fly me -- catch & release)
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To: ClearCase_guy
This is a picture of the aircraft which I made mty 1st cross country flight on. Sat up in the cockpit with the pilots for about an hour! What a way to thrill a young boy.



Specifications:
Lockheed Model 1049H "Super Constellation"
Dimensions:
Wing span: Wing Span: 123 ft 0 in (37.49 m)
Length: Length: 113 ft 7 in (34.60 m)
Height: Height: 24 ft 9 in (7.52 m)
Wing Area: 1,650 sq ft (153.29 m²)
Weights:
Empty: 70,083 lbs (31,789 kg)
Gross: 109,530 lbs (49,681 kg)
Maximum T/O: 137,500 lbs (62,368 kg)
Performance:
Maximum Speed: 366 mph (589 kph)
Cruising Speed: 314 mph (505 kph)
Service Ceiling: 23,200 ft (7,071 m)
Range (max fuel): 4,760 miles (7,660 km)
Range (max payload): 2,880 miles (4,634 km)
Powerplant:
Four Wright Cyclone R-3350-988TC18EA-2 Turbo-Compound Engines
Rated @ 3,400 Hp (2,535.38 Kw) each
Want to listen to a fly-over?

Turn the sound up until your desk vibrates for the "real thing"!

10 posted on 02/11/2004 8:33:38 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
Sat up in the cockpit with the pilots for about an hour! What a way to thrill a young boy.

Do you like Gladiator movies?

11 posted on 02/11/2004 8:44:58 AM PST by TroutStalker (Whip me, strip me, tie me, fly me -- catch & release)
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To: TroutStalker
I see Rags is a boy dog... : )
12 posted on 02/11/2004 9:00:42 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: TroutStalker
I have no idea what they are.
13 posted on 02/11/2004 9:03:57 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
From the movie "Airplane", the pilot (Peter Graves), asks kids visiting the cockpit if they like Gladiator movies, and other (homo)sexually suggestive remarks. ;-)
14 posted on 02/11/2004 9:12:09 AM PST by TroutStalker (Whip me, strip me, tie me, fly me -- catch & release)
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To: TroutStalker
"Have you ever seen a grown man naked?"

"Do you like Turkish prison movies?"
15 posted on 02/11/2004 9:59:40 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
...just don't call me Shirley.
16 posted on 02/11/2004 11:22:02 AM PST by Buck W.
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To: TroutStalker
Good afternoon TS, Shoot I can hear them 13,000 horses just about any time they fire that sucker up. I live right off the approach to the north/south runway at Downtown airport.

I still think that there has not been a prettier airliner made.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}
17 posted on 02/11/2004 11:31:25 AM PST by alfa6 (GNY Highway's Rules: Improvise; Adapt; Overcome)
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To: TroutStalker
Hey TS, got any spare change laying around???

Check this thread out

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076002/posts

Would that look cool in your front yard or what? I would put it in mine but I ain't got the room :-(

Regards

alfa6 ;>}
18 posted on 02/11/2004 11:39:51 AM PST by alfa6 (GNY Highway's Rules: Improvise; Adapt; Overcome)
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To: alfa6
Looks like fun:

Yeah, I guess you do get more notice on Connie's departure than me. It never fails to excite me when I see it. Think they'd take us somewhere on it?

19 posted on 02/11/2004 1:50:26 PM PST by TroutStalker (Whip me, strip me, tie me, fly me -- catch & release)
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To: boomop1; Archangelsk; snopercod; JETDRVR
AMARC doesn't keep sheenry all that long. EC-121s have been shipped out to museums, or turned into aluminium foil and cookie trays.

Here is a current and reasonably accurate world Connie census. It even has the wrecks at Sao Tome (they were flying arms to Biafran rebels in the early seventies and have been abandoned since the collapse of the Ibo insurgency there):

http://www.oldprops.f9.co.uk/Constellation%20census.htm

Here's some general information on AMARC: http://www.go.to/AMARC taken from a book about it.

Here's the official site: http://www.dm.af.mil/AMARC/

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

20 posted on 02/11/2004 2:17:39 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (and a ping to a couple of the usual plane driver suspects, who the heck runs the ping list?)
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