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U.S. officials: Removal of Gaza settlements will boost Hamas: U.S. AGAINST SHARON PLAN?
Ha'aretz ^
| Last Update: 10/02/2004 21:06
| By Gideon Alon, Haaretz Correspondent and agencies
Posted on 02/10/2004 11:27:08 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl
U.S. officials said Tuesday that they are worried that unilateral Israeli moves to relocate settlers from the Gaza Strip will boost the standing of Palestinian extremists amid concerns about a growing "anarchy" on Palestinian streets.
The radical Hamas group could be expected to claim credit for the Israeli withdrawal and may become the "dominant" force in Gaza by undercutting an already weakened Palestinian Authority, the officials said.
"That would be a real big negative for President (George W.) Bush's vision of two states living in peace and security because the Hamas vision is one state with no Jews in it," one senior U.S. official told Reuters on Tuesday.
Other U.S. officials said the initiative could be beneficial if it is carefully thought out and well executed but this is not always Israel's approach to Palestinian issues.
"If they took the settlers out of Gaza that would be a real big deal. That's a huge flash point," one U.S. official said.
But, he added: "Does Hamas get credit and basically become the really dominant authority in Gaza or is the Palestinian Authority able to deliver services in such a way, and is the international community able to support the delivery of services in such a way, that Hamas doesn't become the big guy on the block?"
"Somebody is going to have to help the Palestinian Authority. They don't have the resources" to compete with Hamas," another official said.
Ze'evi: Palestinians will see Gaza plan as victory for terror
The director of Military Intelligence, Major General Aharon Ze'evi (Farkash), on Tuesday warned lawmakers that the Palestinians will interpret Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's plan to "relocate" 17 settlements in the Gaza Strip as a victory for terrorism, and encourage them to step up terrorist attacks.
The IDF Spokesperson's Office subsequently issued a statement late Tuesday afternoon saying "the remarks made by the Military Intelligence director related strictly to the possible Palestinian responses to the disengagement plan presented by the prime minister. The Military Intelligence director said that there are among the Palestinians some who relate to the plan with suspicion and others, including extremists, who are liable to see the plan as strengthening their camp. Ze'evi said the evacuation of Israeli settlements is also liable to hurt the terrorists' motivation."
There were some suggestions the IDF statement was issued because Ze'evi's remarks had angered Sharon.
Speaking at a meeting of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, Ze'evi added that Syrian President Bashar Assad was serious in his offer to hold peace talks with Israel.
Sharon's plan to evacuate the settlements has drawn criticism from across the political spectrum, although it was welcomed by Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia.
On the right, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom repeated his opposition to any unilateral withdrawal from the territories.
Further right, Likud MK Yehiel Hazan, who heads the Knesset lobby on behalf of the Yesha Council of Settlements, said: "Sharon preparing evacuation plans from Gaza are very dangerous for Israel. His disengagement plan will end up disengaging Jews from the Land of Israel. We should not sacrifice Israeli security and its citizenry on the altar of American demands."
The former Meretz chairman, MK Yossi Sarid, expressed skepticism that Sharon would carry out his plan.
"The prime minister is simply not credible. We know how Sharon gives instructions and what their real value on the ground is. After every instruction for an evacuation, another outpost pops out of the ground."
His Meretz colleague, Ran Cohen MK, who is seeking the leadership of Yahad, the new Social Democratic Party, said: "The amazing correlation between the progress in the investigations of the Sharon scandals and his readiness to at least declare readiness to evacuate settlements is another reason to accelerate the investigations - as well as the need for clean government."
TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas
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To: KirkBloke
Nah, the investigation is pretty much over. It has been declared that there is not enough evidence for corruption charges.
The thing that will stop this plan will be rightwing parties leaving the coalition, breaking up the government, and causing a move to new elections in 60 days. This will happen very soon.
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posted on
02/10/2004 4:10:23 PM PST
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: KirkBloke
And Sharon might well get the knife stuck in by some of his junior coalition parties. It will be impossible, unless the Labor party comes into the coalition, which they have said they will not. As a result, the new coalition, which is missing around 15-20 members now in Parliament, will no longer have majority in the parliament, which will lead to new elections.
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posted on
02/10/2004 4:22:23 PM PST
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
And what kind of government do you suppose would be formed after the elections?
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posted on
02/10/2004 4:44:21 PM PST
by
Piranha
To: Cinnamon Girl; WhiteChristianCons
He just learned to change font size.
Like a two year old who just learned to finger paint, watch out for the walls!
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posted on
02/10/2004 4:45:51 PM PST
by
SJackson
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To: yonif
It will be impossible, unless the Labor party comes into the coalition, which they have said they will not. As a result, the new coalition, which is missing around 15-20 members now in Parliament, will no longer have majority in the parliament, which will lead to new elections. I think you're mistaken. None other than Peres himself has said Labor would support Sharon in view of the Gaza withdrawl. There will be no elections.
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02/10/2004 4:47:22 PM PST
by
SJackson
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To: SJackson
I think you're mistaken. None other than Peres himself has said Labor would support Sharon in view of the Gaza withdrawl. There will be no elections. I thought he said he would not support the government until the plan is executed in the field.
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posted on
02/10/2004 4:49:36 PM PST
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: Piranha
And what kind of government do you suppose would be formed after the elections? Interesting question. Likud party won 40 seats, running on a platform against supporting evacuation of territories. But in the new elections, there is a chance Labor will be elected with a number of seats, which will allow it to form a coalition.
This could occur with some rightwing voters stopping to support the Likud, which has now adopted leftist policies, and move to support real rightwing parties. But these parties never get more then 20 seats, each.
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posted on
02/10/2004 4:54:08 PM PST
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: Alouette
I'm getting a headache ... let Israel take Arafat out ... that'll slow them down eventually ... appeasement only encourages them ...
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posted on
02/10/2004 5:09:18 PM PST
by
Bobby777
To: yonif
One of us can check Arutz Sheva or IMRA, but I thought he said Labor would support Sharon in organizing a new government if yesterdays (day before?) confidence vote had failed. I believe Sharon gets the first chance at organizing a new government. I presume it would Foreign Minister Shimon Peres would have been the price.
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posted on
02/10/2004 5:22:50 PM PST
by
SJackson
(Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
To: af_vet_1981
This would be demographic suicide. By the end of next year, there will be more Arabs than Jews in Israel and Yesha combined.
The Arabs would call for a 1 state solution, wherein they would become citizens of Israel and then vote it out of existance.
Some degree of transfer is the only solution.
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posted on
02/10/2004 5:38:10 PM PST
by
rmlew
(Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
To: yonif
Look for Benny Begin to come back and call Herut the real Likud.
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posted on
02/10/2004 5:40:57 PM PST
by
rmlew
(Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
To: SJackson
Looks like your correct. I think I got confused because the Labor Party, I think, did not support the government in the previous no-confidence vote, which failed.
Another thing we should watch, as IMRA has shown, is that Shinui on its website shows that it is against unilateral pullback from the territories. And they have many seats. This may be a problem.
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posted on
02/10/2004 5:56:43 PM PST
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: Bobby777
Israel cannot continue fighting a partial war, it has turned into a Veitnam type situation for them. They must not continue fighting this war from a political view. They need a man like Bush, who will lead no matter what the polls say.
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posted on
02/10/2004 6:23:16 PM PST
by
SparkieWalt
(Ps. 122; 6 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.)
To: Cinnamon Girl
Sharon may just be bluffing. I have thought a lot about this, and the truth is that neither the US, Egypt or Jordan or even the UN want an Israeli pullout. By announcing the pullout Sharon is forcing these countries to go as far as coming out IN FAVOR of Israeli occupation and, by inference, settlement!
Even if these countries don't go that far, they will still be forced to change their tune quite a bit. This will alleviate the international pressure on Israel, and also cause the media to turn the heat down quite a bit, since it will have become obvious that after all these years of haranguing Israel to withdraw from "arab land", nobody really wants them to.
And the reason they don't want them to is manyfold, but Egypt and Jordan don't want the security problem, and the immigration problem, and/or the exodus problem if/when the Palestinian civil war starts. The USA doesn't want to have to deal with the financial/social/military problems involving a decrepit "Palestine" or a "sharia Palestine" in the absense of Israeli oversight, in the middle of a civil war. The UN doesn't want Israel to leave them with the mess.
To: yonif
What more can you tell us about the Israeli media, talk in Israel, about foreign reaction to Sharon's annoucement. Any response from Europe yet?
To: monkeyshine
Polls show a little over 50% support pulling out in this manner from Gaza. The UN has said that it supports it, and wants Israel to immediately also get going on pulling out from the "West Bank."
The US has some fears this will end their roadmap to "peace" (their version on how to create the PLO terrorist state).
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posted on
02/10/2004 7:04:10 PM PST
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: monkeyshine
Hey, monkeyshine. I don't think so, about Sharon. Why would he want to tick off the rest of the right? It is the leftist Rabin nuts in Israel that want this. You know all the secular liberals in Tel Aviv can't stand the dati "settlers" in Gush Katif, etc. It seems that once again, the Israeli government is Israel's worst enemy with regard to politics.
To: monkeyshine
Children in the Gaza Strip settlement of Neveh Dekalim on Tuesday preparing salad as a show of support for the IDF. (AP)
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