No Child Left Bahinf

1 posted on 02/10/2004 7:56:01 AM PST by leprechaun9

2 posted on 02/10/2004 7:57:01 AM PST by JennysCool

Any time you see a government program labeled "No Child Left Behind," you can bet your last dollar that children are going to be left behind.

3 posted on 02/10/2004 7:57:19 AM PST by Agnes Heep

Any time you see a government program labeled "these policies are to protect you," buy more ammo.

4 posted on 02/10/2004 8:00:15 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo

At least it wasn't Michael Jackson's bill, 'Leave No Child's Behind'.

(I know, that was bad.... ;-)

5 posted on 02/10/2004 8:01:34 AM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)

6 posted on 02/10/2004 8:03:55 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)

Opposition to President Bush's No Child Left Behind education law

God forbid, teachers should be held to any kind of standard, or barometer. Just give 'em a raise.

7 posted on 02/10/2004 8:05:18 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)

tom dachle is seeply daddened.

8 posted on 02/10/2004 8:05:22 AM PST by No Blue States

To: No Blue States

9 posted on 02/10/2004 8:07:34 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)

Let me tell you about No Child Left Behind. This program is so the teachers will be judged by their graduating students performances & pre-college testing and on the surface this looks great, finally the teachers are going to be held responsible for their teaching faults if there are any.

However what they don't tell you is that even special ed students & foreign kids who don't even speak English are also used in the percentages and that is not fair. How do you teach a kid to pass a High School test when they can't even tie their own shoe strings or can't even read and write? I know this for a fact because my wife is a teacher, the Administrators and the Politicians are the only ones to benefit from this fiasco.

10 posted on 02/10/2004 8:09:59 AM PST by HELLRAISER II (Give us another tax break Mr. President)

I agree that Teachers performances should be graded just like anyone else's, but there's more to this Education Law than just the title. Assess their performance but do it in a way that is also fair to the teacher's as well as the student's See post #10.

11 posted on 02/10/2004 8:13:57 AM PST by HELLRAISER II (Give us another tax break Mr. President)

To: HELLRAISER II

The schools will just do what Capistrano Valley High School in California used to do when my daughter was a student there. They require 100% attendance, then send all the low performing kids and goof offs to the library to make up the allowable percentage of absentees.

12 posted on 02/10/2004 8:14:56 AM PST by Eva

To: HELLRAISER II

"How do you teach a kid to pass a High School test when they can't even tie their own shoe strings or can't even read and write?"

Perhaps if they cant tie their shoes by HS they should be in special ed.

13 posted on 02/10/2004 8:16:03 AM PST by No Blue States

To: HELLRAISER II

foreign kids who don't even speak English are also used in the percentages and that is not fair.

When the state of CA stopped teaching children in their native tongue, their test scores rose. So, NOT speaking English is a crutch for a limited time (as evidenced by CA) & cannot be used as a reason not to pursue this act. No one likes to be held accountable, and this is no different.

With that said, it most surely should NOT begin & end with the teachers. There's a HUGE responsibility on the family as well.

14 posted on 02/10/2004 8:20:43 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)

Come now, let's just move forwirf.

15 posted on 02/10/2004 8:21:44 AM PST by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)

To: JennysCool; aculeus; general_re

Bahinf?

Persian Gulf state?

16 posted on 02/10/2004 8:22:52 AM PST by dighton

Unlike those little rascals in Hamelin, the children of Bahinf stayed home.

17 posted on 02/10/2004 8:23:08 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)

Comments Welcome

How anout postinf the entire article sinfe the SLT (IIRC) is not part of the FR injunction

THURSDAY
February 05, 2004

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'No Child' rebellion picking up momentum

By Ronnie Lynn
The Salt Lake Tribune

    Opposition to President Bush's No Child Left Behind education law is gaining traction, and Republicans -- even in GOP strongholds such as Utah -- are among those digging in deepest.
    The schism sets the stage for an unusual confrontation between administration officials and Utah legislators, who have taken the strongest action to date against the education-reform law that the president touts as one of his top domestic accomplishments.
    A Utah House committee last week unanimously advanced a bill sponsored by Rep. Margaret Dayton, R-Orem, to opt out of the law and forfeit at least $103 million it provides for programs and services that target disadvantaged students. House Bill 43 probably won't be debated on the floor until after a meeting Friday between lawmakers and officials from the U.S. Department of Education.
    Utah isn't alone.
    According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, Republican lawmakers in Arizona, Indiana, Virginia, Wisconsin and Vermont have joined Democratic counterparts in a handful of other states in launching measures that oppose provisions of the 2-year-old law.
    Some observers say the bipartisan backlash could spell trouble for Bush this November.
    "The president thought this bill would help him with his re-election, but I believe he gained maximum credit on this bill on the day he signed it," said Jack Jennings, director of the Center on Education Policy, a Washington think tank. "Now that we're into implementing a lofty law with difficult provisions, he will not get the credit he hoped to get, and, in fact, he might be tarnished by the controversies."
    Beltway Republicans, meanwhile, say the rebellion in the states is directed at the U.S. Department of Education, not Bush. Department officials interpreted the law too narrowly when they developed guidelines for state implementation, said U.S. Rep. Chris Cannon, R-Utah.

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    "The department has the flexibility to take care of states like Utah. We need the bureaucrats to figure out Utah does a pretty good job and we want to do it our way," he said. "It's also clear the White House does not want the state that had [one of] the largest margins for Bush [in the 2000 election] backing out on a program."
    A Utah political scientist says the state measures do target Bush -- at least partly.
    "This is one of those issues where there's a tension between what a party would like to do and what its ideological roots are," said Kelly Patterson, an associate professor and head of Brigham Young University's political science department. "Local control. That's the rub. He had to show national leadership, and that means treading on states."
    Dayton and Utah Republican leaders have taken the unusual step of refusing to discuss HB43 publicly until after their meeting Friday with federal officials. Dayton has said the law's federal intrusion, unrealistic expectations and potential drain on state school funds prompted her to sponsor the legislation.
    Congress passed the law with bipartisan support in 2001, but many Democrats -- including presidential candidates John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North Carolina -- have softened their endorsements after seeing how the law has affected schools. Both say schools need more federal funding to carry out the mandates.
    A Kerry spokesman said Wednesday that the Democratic front-runner would reform the law to include more money and "assure schools focus on teaching to high standards and not drill-and-kill test prep."
    States, districts and schools have been complaining about the law's strict testing requirements since the Education Department began issuing its guidelines. Even so, the Bush administration has resisted pleas to amend the law or its guidelines.
    "Some want to undermine the No Child Left Behind Act by weakening standards and accountability," said Bush in last month's State of the Union speech. "Yet the results we require are really a matter of common sense. We expect third-graders to read and do math at the third-grade level, and that's not asking too much."
    McKell Withers, superintendent of Salt Lake City schools, likened HB43 to a game of chicken, and he had some advice for Utah lawmakers: Swerve -- because Washington won't.
    "There is a legend [at the Legislature] that if you time this just right you can opt out but not lose any funding," Withers said. "But I doubt [the federal government] is going to say, 'We thank you for making this a huge political issue, we accept your apology and here's your money.' "
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    Tribune reporter Linda Fantin contributed to this report.

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18 posted on 02/10/2004 8:28:03 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Everyone is stupid! That is why they do all those stupid things! -- H. Simpson.)

Bahinf is Lnihab spelled backwards.

Coincidence? Typo?

I dont think so. Something is up.

19 posted on 02/10/2004 8:28:56 AM PST by No Blue States

Our school will not accept parental notes on absences, and sent us a note mentioning the No Child Left Behind policy as to why they may be issuing a warrant for my husband's arrest for the "unexcused" absences. So now I guess No Child Left Behind means also - take your child to the DR whether you need to or not because their absences make our school look bad in the eyes of the Federal government.

BTW- When he went and raised hell about this to the school, they admitted they had no authority to do any such thing, their was no such thing as a truancy warrant, so it was all empty threats.

The next school board meeting is March 4th, and a lot of pissed off parents are going to be there.

20 posted on 02/10/2004 8:30:37 AM PST by eyespysomething (Another American optimist!)

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