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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Jeb Bush would do very little different than his brother. "

You're DEAD wrong on that one pal. Jeb is FAR more conservative than his brother. How do I know? He's a personal family friend of the first name kind. I've known him from long before he was the Governor.

I will vote my conscience as I always do. I am sick and tired of the spending, gun control prattle and pandering to the left. I'm REALLY sick of the immigration debacle that has gone on for DECADES, but which this President has only worsened in his pandering. I'm beginning to wonder if the leaf doesn't fall far from the tree of his CFR/Globalist/UN loving daddy. Bush 41 was almost as damaging to the country as Clinton. And don't get me wrong, as of right now, I'm still voting for GWB in Nov. Holding my nose, but voting. So far. But if he signs or pushes the AWB even as a rider to critical legislation. It's over.

And you know what? Maybe this country needs a smack across the chops again by having the country slide near the edge or beyond under a RAT administration. The RATS are stupid enough to do something really foolish which can still be stopped before it really get's moving, yet the attempt itself, as seen by MR and Mrs "Average American," might be enough to finish them off for all time. They really are verging on the ragged edge of oblivion. Bush would have pushed them off that ledge a long time ago, except for his own blunders to the left. My tinfoil hat just heats up and the little propeller spins like mad when I think and wonder if these really are "blunders" or some sort of plan orchestrated by "Daddy" to advance a NWO agenda. Yeah, I know that Bush 43 PI$$ED off the UN in several major ways this term, but there might be a long term backlash that is very beneficial to that organization.

568 posted on 02/11/2004 12:53:49 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ExSoldier
Nice mix of paranoia and conspiracy theory.

I am not willing to throw the baby out with the bath water.

If you examine the history of the RAT party you will see that it has survived egregious blunder, massive corruption and outright treason yet somehow survived. Any deflection from weakening or destroying it does not serve America.
608 posted on 02/11/2004 2:07:25 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: ExSoldier
"As of right now, I'm still voting for GWB in Nov. Holding my nose, but voting. So far. But if he signs or pushes the AWB even as a rider to critical legislation. It's over. "

So too is my bandying this tioic about with you on this thread. I grow bored. Neither of us will convince the other, although, in truth, I wasn't ever trying to convince you of anything, just explaining my position, which you attack. So, it's over.

642 posted on 02/11/2004 4:14:57 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ExSoldier
When folks in the GOP here in TX poisted George the Duce as potential presidental stuff, myself and others, familar with his speaches etc and some of his old Midland hombres, felt that he was 'too conservative' for the general electorate, fyi that was be before:

bimbo eruptions became the norm and of course...

"welll, it depends on what the meaning of is, is..."

Algore for all his algorythems, was done in by his scuzbucket boss more than any one thing on the policy side.

I fully expect Jeb to run or be a potential runner in 2008 or 2012 at the latest. Note: after the demonrat debacle in 2000 he was Re-elected gov.

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651 posted on 02/11/2004 9:25:22 PM PST by woerm (student of history)
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