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Assault weapons ban back in play; Feinstein tries to get reluctant Congress ...
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| Feb 9, 2004
| by Edward Epstein
Posted on 02/09/2004 9:03:09 AM PST by Lazamataz
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Washington -- Gun control hasn't emerged as a leading issue in the 2004 presidential race, but that is likely to change as Democratic California Sen. Dianne Feinstein intensifies her effort to win renewal of the decade-old assault weapons ban, which expires in September.
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To: Big Mack
There is ONE issue in this election. Will the president defeat those who want to destroy us or will the American people get wobbly and allow its worst enemies back into power? Apparently you would choose the latter course. Too bad.
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:16:10 AM PST
by
justshutupandtakeit
(America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
To: CaptSkip; Lazamataz
"One of the only times I would disagree with you Laz.
Though there are times I too feel pessimistic about the "Sunset" of the Ban, I trust Delay ( and I think the President does also ) that renewal stands NO chance in the House."
Laz could be right in a way. If Feinstein's rider makes it to him, it is the same as the extension making it to his desk itself. Hopefully, Congress can strip the rider off before it makes it to Bush.
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:16:13 AM PST
by
looscnnn
(Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
To: Lazamataz
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:16:54 AM PST
by
xsrdx
(Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
To: looscnnn
There is no issue which would justify putting democRATS back into power to further undermine our national security. This is the only issue of supreme importance.
Putting those opposed to EVERY form of gun ownership back into power seems like a reasonable course for you to follow?
How many RATmedia tricks do you fall for? Will you ever be able to recognize and resist them?
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:19:10 AM PST
by
justshutupandtakeit
(America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
To: Lazamataz
Can you tell me how 10 Senators and 100 Congressmen plan to twist arms to get this passed?
45
posted on
02/09/2004 10:20:21 AM PST
by
m1-lightning
(God, Guns, and Country!)
To: justshutupandtakeit
If it's so important W stay in office, I suggest you get busy lobbying him on this issue.
Because one side has to give, and it isn't going to be us.
46
posted on
02/09/2004 10:21:22 AM PST
by
freeeee
("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
To: Yo-Yo
"Every bill dealing with guns is uphill because of the gun lobby.Thank GOD for that!
47
posted on
02/09/2004 10:23:28 AM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
To: justshutupandtakeit
His base is firm. The only fading is from fringe one-issue types holed up in their basements dreading the world who probably didn't support him to begin with. Those who are so foolish as to consider cutting off their noses to spit their faces rarely make a difference in anything. Insulting those with whom you disagree is rarely a successful way of winning them to your point of view.
Apparently, on the Second Amendment issue, your chosen name indicates your point of view well.
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:25:01 AM PST
by
Jarhead_22
(Peace can wait. I want payback.)
To: Lazamataz
"I find it a dismaying part of public life that guns can be given a protection against lawsuits that no other industry has," Feinstein saidThey are given protection from FRIVOLUS lawsuits. If the weapon discharges & blows up....it's defective...sue till your hearts content. Same weapon discharges properly....sorry. It works justs fine..no lawsuit.
49
posted on
02/09/2004 10:25:50 AM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
To: justshutupandtakeit
"Putting those opposed to EVERY form of gun ownership back into power seems like a reasonable course for you to follow?"
There are many that vote the person, not party or anything else. They would withhold their votes if Bush were to sign something like this, due to other liberal issues he has advanced and is trying to advance. Along with Bush saying he is for national security, but won't do anything to protect the border with Mexico.
"How many RATmedia tricks do you fall for? Will you ever be able to recognize and resist them?"
I am not about to start playing pissing games with someone with a name like yours. You don't know me, thus you would not know that I do recognize their tricks. What I can't stand is people that expect us to bend over and "justshutupandtakeit" for whatever the quote of the day is.
50
posted on
02/09/2004 10:27:36 AM PST
by
looscnnn
(Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
To: justshutupandtakeit
There is ONE issue in this election. Yeah, but it's not the issue you think. It's whether we conservatives exert the only vote we can, by taking it away from those who think they own it, or become as marginalized in the Republican party as Blacks are in the Democratic.
Our 'enemies' will still be there in the election after this one, but we won't be unless we get the 'pubbies attention NOW.
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:28:19 AM PST
by
Grut
To: Lazamataz
52
posted on
02/09/2004 10:34:10 AM PST
by
m1-lightning
(God, Guns, and Country!)
To: looscnnn
"If Feinstein's rider makes it to him, it is the same as the extension making it to his desk itself. Hopefully, Congress can strip the rider off before it makes it to Bush."
To be safe, we should all begin now to contact our Congress Critters and the WH on a continuing basis, as to our UNWAVERING stand on this issue.
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:39:20 AM PST
by
CaptSkip
To: CaptSkip
I saw a really fascinating idea on the other thread: If it is attached to the newest Patriot Act bill, it will be awfully difficult to play brinksmanship with that.
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:43:25 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(I know exactly what opinion I am permitted to have, and I am zealous -- nay, vociferous -- in it!!!)
To: Lazamataz
"I saw a really fascinating idea on the other thread: If it is attached to the newest Patriot Act bill, it will be awfully difficult to play brinksmanship with that."
What was that?
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:50:55 AM PST
by
looscnnn
(Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
To: CaptSkip
"To be safe, we should all begin now to contact our Congress Critters and the WH on a continuing basis, as to our UNWAVERING stand on this issue."
Yup, I could not agree more.
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:51:28 AM PST
by
looscnnn
(Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
To: Lazamataz
"If it is attached to the newest Patriot Act bill, it will be awfully difficult to play brinksmanship with that."
I think the house would pass a different version and it would get taken out of the bill in conference. Since the GOP controls both houses, they will pick the conferees who would no doubt be anti-AWB
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:57:42 AM PST
by
raloxk
To: donozark
I concur. Congress may be gerrymandered to the point where not many house seats will change parties in the future. But Republicans and Democrats for that matter have to consider primary challengers from within their own parties. That makes this an issue of local interest in many Congressional districts and when combined with prevailing national apathy about gun control I think the chances of renewing this legislation in the House are nil.
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:03:06 AM PST
by
SBprone
To: Lazamataz
Here is how it is going to happen.
The bill to protect the manufacturers will leave the House WITHOUT the AWB renewal.
The bill to protect the manufacturers will leave the Seante WITH the AWB renewal.
The two bills will meet in conference committee, where the AWB renewal will be added to what is sent to W.
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:16:10 AM PST
by
IGOTMINE
(All we are saying... is give guns a chance!)
To: Big Mack
"If President Bush signs a continuation of AWB or a new and more extensive version of AWB, I and so many others will not only not vote for him, but as I have said before, will campaign for the rat. It is my intension that if there is to be a second revolution it will have to be now, before I am too old to pull a trigger or can't remember why I'm pulling it."
Amen Big Mack, Amen!!! I could not have said it any better myself. What the hardcore party hacks have forgotten is that it is the health of the Constitution, the WHOLE Constitution that is of primary importance here. Not which group of liars is in charge politically. If the Constitution has become meaningless, then so has the Union. To me, the resolution of the illegal AWB is the single most important issue. With Republicans in control of the House, Senate and the Oval Office, there is no excuse for the continuation of the AWB. NONE AT ALL.
This is the line that I have drawn in the sand...
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