[Peach]

The truth is that the net loss in jobs is approx. 330,000!

Don't let the Rats dictate their version of the "truth."

This is the real story (from the Investors Business Daily as read on the Rush show). Partial transcript is below:

I've got a story today from Investors Business Daily. You know, I was tempted to fire off a note to Bill Schneider today but it wouldn't matter. The fact of the matter is we had this number back in I guess it was either September or November, I'm not sure which. Well, it would have been November, yeah, latter part of November. Somebody ran some numbers, the net job loss at that time was 330,000. The number of jobs lost versus the number of jobs created led to a net loss then over the three years of 200 and some odd thousand, 300,000, 330, and that's slowly being wiped out now with the new job creation that's happening with our roaring economy which is leading the world out of its recession, that's not being reported here.

The Investors Business Daily today has a story by Jed Graham, "For nearly a year a debate has been brewing over which of the government's employment measures is wrong. Monthly payroll figures derived from a survey of 160,000 employers show a net loss of 537,000 jobs the past two years. But, the monthly survey of about 60,000 households shows the U.S. has added 2.4 million jobs in that span." Well, we just heard CNN report there are two and a half million jobs lost. Now we find out from Investors Business Daily there are other government numbers that show 2.4 million jobs have been created.

Come on, folks, use your brains on this. This is an ever-expanding economy, I don't care whether we're in a down cycle or not we're always expanding. The population base is always expanding. We are pretty near the statistical full employment number anyway. It's just not logical to assume that all we do is lose jobs. And he didn't say on CNN net job loss, that's not what they're trying to do. They're trying to create the impression that there are two and a half people that used to work that don't because they can't. And that's not what happens. People find work and leave work all the time. It is a cycle, you know it yourself. This idea that there haven't been any jobs created, these guys that report this know this is all a bunch of bohunk but that doesn't fit the agenda, it doesn't fit what the purpose here is. This is to paint a picture of doom and gloom of the U.S. economy, going into this election season, because it matches what? It matches precisely the Democratic Party presidential election playbook. And it just isn't the case. It's the exact opposite.

The economy is roaring back. It's bringing the world back out of its global recession. There are jobs being created. We just had a story the other day of all the unreported self-employed jobs that these employment surveys do not cover. And there were 15 million jobs, net 15 million jobs that do not get reported as people employed in this country. Well, throw that in and it wipes out any of Bill Schneider or any other Democrat's number of two million or two and a half million jobs lost. All of this is a crock. This is the most powerful economic engine in America, and it's rolling, and it's expanding and it is growing. We are the wealthiest country on the face of the earth. To try to paint a picture of this country as a soup line, soup kitchen on the way to depression, is simply purposeful dishonesty, pure and simple.

[A. Pole]

This is an ever-expanding economy, I don't care whether we're in a down cycle or not we're always expanding.

Yeah, sure. Tell it to the Argentinians. Almost every great power in the past has fallen because of such over-confidence/hubris/hutzpah. Good example was XVIc Spain.

[ninenot]

Nice spin, Rush

The "straw man" he creates at the end---'all in a soup kitchen,' of course, is a ridiculous parody of the real, verifiable, and proven claim: that manufacturing jobs are going away.

But even more important, Rushbo drinks the KoolAid of the spinners at Labor: that all those retail, Gummint, and health-service jobs recently filled are the equivalent of manufacturing jobs. Wrong-o, Rush! First off, filling Gummint jobs is precisely what Rushbo rails against most--for who PAYS for them?

Secondly, retail and bed-pan-washing jobs are not exactly the equivalent of stamping, machining, and assembly--neither in pay, nor in skills.

Rushbo also made a point of telling us all about the growth in 'self-employment' recently. Well, some of that is good. But some of that is really, really bad: it's professionals who don't HAVE a real job and are taking as little as 1/2 their previous income on temporary assignments, or on margin-cutting jobs--the programmers who are now doing Ma & Pa work for $20./hour, or getting into "Web Design" schemes.

Finally, the growth in the "service" sector is largely temporary employment--you know, packing Christmas gift-boxes with cheese and sausage at $6.50/hour--or taking on a "temporary" professional assignment at about 2/3rds of your normal income.

Spin is NOT the private property of the Democrats...

[SuziQ]

Thanks for posting that info about the job situation. So many have bandied that 2.4 million jobs lost figure around that I wasn't sure what the truth was! I knew that jobs had been created, and that of those 2.4 million people who had lost jobs over the last three years, many had already found new jobs, but didn't have the actual numbers.

[Veracious Poet]

You have to be kidding...trading good-paying blue collar jobs for fast-food positions isn't a good deal in my book. ;-)

[KneelBeforeZod]

Rush spins too much these days.

those job stats are worthless without knowing what jobs we are talking about.

what jobs were lost? people at a paper clip factory making $10/hr who went on to be middle managers and being paid $80k/year?

or some factory guys making $23/hr who got laid off and now make $8/hr at walmart?

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I'm sure someone will want an example of his spin...so off hand here's one. Rush whining about the gov't spending on money on a study about people eating soup--spun it to say that we wasted money on a study to prove people eat too much. Nope. the trick was that the bowls were rigged to keep filling up from the bottom. No one noticed. The point was people just kept eating. Rush left out the main point... if anyone democrat did that, he'd bore us about it for 90 minutes.

[TomasUSMC]

The problem is not the numbers of jobs lost. With 12 million Illegal Aliens pardoned, there might very well be a net job gain. Of course, one American citizen at 50k is kicked out of the workplace and replaced with 2 at 18k. That is not touched upon in the rebuttals of the Pro-NAFTA crowd.

But what is the solution. How does America compete with countries that have no regulations on pollution, ecology, safety and slave labor? We are all for helping the American worker aren't we?

Stop the H1B program. It destroys the engineer's American Dream by allowing our youth to study hard, getting an engineering degree then finding out they have to compete against H1B visas holders who work for less than a High School grad.

Take those 15 billion for Aids to Africa and spend it on Aid to America.

Why not control our borders. If we need to increase immigration to get more lo-tech workers, make them legal. Keep it above the table.


No Border No Vote

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

"...the president is busily touting the increase in "service sector" jobs. Yes, these jobs did in fact increase. However, properly translated, that'll mean we will soon be able to all sit around in a circle and shine each other's shoes."

The problem is the shift from high-wage jobs to low-wage jobs. Lots of Americans with degrees in IT and Engineering are working way below their previous wage level; unable to find work anywhere but at Home Depot, etc.