Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 8 Feb 2004 (Pres Bush on MTP)

"Clearly didn't believe the words out of his own mouth"? So far removed from reality you must have gone with "Spirit" to Mars.

Oh well, I suppose it's better than "nanny nanny boo-boo, stick your head in doo-doo".

Fine effort. Give yourself a hand.

1,381 posted on 02/08/2004 2:41:42 PM PST by Stu Cohen

Gosh, my opinion of you has not changed yet--you are still full of yourself.

I should hope so. Being full of someone else would be quite bizarre.

1,382 posted on 02/08/2004 2:42:24 PM PST by Stu Cohen

You guess that President Bush made up his missed National Guard time later. While that may be true, I would appreciate it if you could provide some evidence that supports your guess. Did he make up the missed service in Texas or in Alabama?

1,383 posted on 02/08/2004 2:42:40 PM PST by huskerco

If you think that President Bush's service in the National Guard was so honorable, can you explain why his 1973 Officer Effectiveness Report (Evaluation) stated that he hadn't been seen for one year?

The records are all over the place, feel free to look them up.

Can you explain why he would receive an honorable discharge if he did not serve honorably?

And can you tell me why you are acting dishonorably by spreading lies about President Bush?

1,384 posted on 02/08/2004 2:43:57 PM PST by cyncooper

To: huskerco; PhiKapMom

PKM, Check out freeper huskerco and his hostility towards President Bush and his service record.

1,385 posted on 02/08/2004 2:46:11 PM PST by cyncooper

You did not like President Bush before or after the interview.I liked him before and after.I trust him.Why did you bother to listen?

Because he's the President. I listened to Clinton too. Liked him even less.

If we don't agree with 'em were not supposed to listen to them?

When was this rule written and why was I not informed beforehand?

And for the record, I liked Bush before the amnesty thing. I happen to think that bordered on treason and could not in good concious support him after that.

It sucks to be a one-issue voter, but I also wouldn't have voted for Hitler simply because of his stand on Judaism ... so call me shallow.

1,386 posted on 02/08/2004 2:46:16 PM PST by Stu Cohen

On August 1, 1972, Lt Bush was suspended from flying by the National Guard because he had not taken his annual medical examination. I don't believe that he ever regained his flight status. Do you have some evidence that he did?

1,387 posted on 02/08/2004 2:47:21 PM PST by huskerco

To: huskerco; All

Ok one correction of myself. President (at the time 1st Lieutenant) Bush was discharged from the ANG in October 1973 not 1972 as I stated. I apologize. But however that still doesn't change the point I was trying to make.

Let me say huskerco that you however are wrong still. You took a quote from an officer in a magazine article and attributed it to the President's OER. Sloppy.

From a George Magazine Article from Oct. 2000

"On May 2, 1973, Bush's squadron leader in the 147th, Lieutenant Colonel William Harris, Jr. wrote: "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit" for the past year."

A magazine quote is far different from a statement of fact on an official military record. make sure you rememebr that.

From the same article:

"Two documents obtained by Georgemag.com indicate that Bush did make up the time he missed during the summer and autumn of 1972. One is an April 23, 1973 order for Bush to report to annual active duty training the following month; the other is an Air National Guard statement of days served by Bush that is torn and undated but contains entries that correspond to the first. Taken together, they appear to establish that Bush reported for duty on nine occasions between November 29, 1972-when he could have been in Alabama-and May 24, 1973. Bush still wasn't flying, but over this span, he did earn nine points of National Guard service from days of active duty and 32 from inactive duty. When added to the 15 so-called "gratuitous" points that every member of the Guard got per year, Bush accumulated 56 points, more than the 50 that he needed by the end of May 1973 to maintain his standing as a Guardsman.

On May 1, Bush was ordered to report for further active duty training, and documents show that he proceeded to cram in another 10 sessions over the next two months. Ultimately, he racked up 19 active duty points of service and 16 inactive duty points by July 30-which, added to his 15 gratuitous points, achieved the requisite total of 50 for the year ending in May 1974.

On October 1, 1973, First Lieutenant George W. Bush received an early honorable discharge so that he could attend Harvard Business School. He was credited with five years, four months and five days of service toward his six-year service obligation."

You don't get an honorable discharge from ANY branch of service if you've been AWOL.

The National Guard and Army Reserve have different views on "reporting for duty" than the active forces do. People miss drills or 2 week annual training periods for various reasons. (Job, kids, illness etc.) As long as you make up the drill dates within the specified time as far as the Guard and reserve are concerned you have completed your training requirements for the year. I have had to do this a couple times myself.

This is a tempest in a teapot kept alive by people who have no clue as to the differences in how the active and reserve forces operate and the AWOL myth foisted upon the unsuspecting and easily swayed (BUSH LIED!)as fact when it is pure fiction.

1,388 posted on 02/08/2004 2:47:46 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life)

Your comments about the commercials are as crude as the ads themselves.

Imagine if I paid to have my comments aired during the President's interview. Which is exactly what NBC and the President allowed to happen.

Crude? Indeed. You said a mouthful.

1,389 posted on 02/08/2004 2:47:51 PM PST by Stu Cohen

More like rattled and incoherent

Spinning, spinning.

I see you give an impassioned opus on the idea of posting opinions. Some of us have a quaint notion of backing those opinions up with facts. As I pointed out earlier, those of us who watched the interview actually posted what was said. It was anything but "rattled" or "incoherent". You may fling out such charges, but I asked and have yet to receive an example from you that would support your "opinion".

1,390 posted on 02/08/2004 2:50:36 PM PST by cyncooper

I'm sorry you will not voting for the man who has led this nation well during an extraodinarily tough time in our history.Perhaps Kerry can solve the illegal immigration problem with a blanket amnesty upfront.

So this is what the country has come to? Voting for the lessor of two evils?

*sigh*

I suppose it is what it is.

1,391 posted on 02/08/2004 2:51:04 PM PST by Stu Cohen

Third request for you to cite an example of what was said in the interview to support your absurd assertions.

1,392 posted on 02/08/2004 2:51:42 PM PST by cyncooper

You allege that I am spreading lies about President Bush. I have stated that his 1973 OER says that he did not perform any service at his unit. What about that statement is a lie?

1,393 posted on 02/08/2004 2:52:07 PM PST by huskerco

"Voting for the lessor of two evils?"

Its called reality. Live it.

1,394 posted on 02/08/2004 2:52:12 PM PST by marajade

I am pretty confident that not as many people as YOU THINK, were anywhere nearly as enamored with the interview as YOU WERE.

LoL!!! That is indeed just an opinion also.

There is a thread on who we should vote for in the November election. Perhaps that may be indicative of Dubya's approval/disapproval here on Free Republic. You can see it in the sidebar. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I felt the President did a very good job articulating his reasons for going to war. So there's one vote for his appearance today.

1,395 posted on 02/08/2004 2:52:53 PM PST by Alas Babylon!

Meet the Press is also to be replayed at 10 pm CST on CNBC, right after Dennis Miller.

1,396 posted on 02/08/2004 2:53:27 PM PST by alnick

I guess you didn't notice.It was a proposal,not a Presidential edict.It did start a conversation where none was on the front burner.

I am appalled at what ranchers along the border and nearby towns are experiencing.I am sorry to lose your vote.

1,397 posted on 02/08/2004 2:53:46 PM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)

Saw the entire story online.....written by a Michigan news organization. Much lower than expected.....I believe they said they'd get 400,000 and they got 150,000

1,398 posted on 02/08/2004 2:53:55 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)

The records are there and are being presented to you, so why don't you answer me:

You do know he flew one third of the way to the carrier, correct?

1,399 posted on 02/08/2004 2:54:23 PM PST by cyncooper

Are you suggesting the Edwards could hold his own against Vice President Cheney??????????????????????????

1,400 posted on 02/08/2004 2:54:58 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)

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