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Stop the Outsourcing of American Jobs

Posted on 02/06/2004 10:43:23 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe

I am here to announce that an undisclosed American telecom company (huge, big, you'd know the name if you heard it, but I cannot disclose it) has decided to outsource most of its Help Desk and IT Administration jobs to India.

Folks, the only way this practice, greedy corporate executives sending jobs overseas to save a few bucks an hour, is going to end will be you demanding that Congress take action.

Don't get me wrong, I believe in free trade. I believe in Capitalism. But I also believe that corporate executives should have a responsibility to serve the interests of their nation as well.

I believe that the only way to limit the outsourcing of American jobs to overseas firms is to place a punitive tarriff on the importation of technical services. Make it so expensive to outsource the jobs, that companies think twice before they implement these "cost-saving" methods.

Write your Congressman. Make so much noise that they will have to listen. It's up to YOU.


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1 posted on 02/06/2004 10:43:23 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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To: Lunatic Fringe
But I also believe that corporate executives should have a responsibility to serve the interests of their nation as well.

Should consumers be forced to buy american only? It would only be fair...

2 posted on 02/06/2004 10:45:33 AM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Is this SprintPCS? Heads need to roll in their management over their idiotic billing service. First they can't send me a correct bill. Next their charging me for a previous state's 911 service. Their their website kept on dying. Then their matching up of credit card billing addresses and my address with them was flaky -- meaning I couldn't pay online. Then their "speedpay" or whatever assclown run website to process credit cards kept on going down, now I think they dropped them.

Just who on earth makes decisions there at SprintPCS? If there's one part of your business that should be run at a professional level its the billing department.
3 posted on 02/06/2004 10:48:01 AM PST by lelio
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To: Lunatic Fringe
How about starting a customer service call center to handle the customer service needs of many companies in America and hiring those recently and soon to be laid off?

What? Your not willing to put your money on the line to do this but are demanding others do?

4 posted on 02/06/2004 10:48:22 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Disclose the name of the companies that send jobs overseas and let the consumers decide if they want to buy their goods and services.

I'd much rather by a (name the item) at a higher price if it were manufactured in the USA.

5 posted on 02/06/2004 10:49:14 AM PST by Living Free in NH
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To: Lunatic Fringe
One side effect of the outsourcing boom that I believe goes unmentioned is the effect that this has on youngsters pursuing careers.

Technical educations take several years to acquire. Will young people go into technical/medical/engineering programs at our universities if they do not believe there will be a job for them on the other side of that considerable investment?

6 posted on 02/06/2004 10:52:52 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I believe that the only way to limit the outsourcing of American jobs to overseas firms is to place a punitive tarriff on the importation of technical services.

Would it be outlandish to suggest that then those countries affected by such a tarriff would simply slap a similar tax on US products or services?

And even if you're able to look past that, you're forgetting one important thing...corportations don't pay taxes. Those taxes become part of the overhead, and the cost is handed down to the consumer.

7 posted on 02/06/2004 10:55:01 AM PST by sirshackleton
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To: Lunatic Fringe
A new epression (PC) is that a company XYZ moves jobs to IBM !!

Do you understand ?
8 posted on 02/06/2004 10:55:04 AM PST by traumer (Even paranoids have enemies)
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To: Living Free in NH
Sorry, but I don't think it is very American of you to deny other Americans a consumer choice, Lunatic. You should really learn the concepts of supply and demand.
9 posted on 02/06/2004 10:55:38 AM PST by Conservababe
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Don't get me wrong, I believe in free trade. I believe in Capitalism.

I believe that the only way to limit the outsourcing of American jobs to overseas firms is to place a punitive tarriff on the importation of technical services.

You can believe that if you wish, but calling it "free trade" is improper. You believe in protectionism.

SD

10 posted on 02/06/2004 10:56:58 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Phantom Lord
How about starting a customer service call center to handle the customer service needs of many companies in America and hiring those recently and soon to be laid off? What? Your not willing to put your money on the line to do this but are demanding others do?

As usual, another hard liner misses the point. I believe the point is, the competition is UNFAIR. He recognizes that. Do you?
Do you even care that to pay someone a living wage in India it's less because all costs in India are less? Oh, I forgot, you do, and you'd like to see our society driven in that direction. Haves and have nots. Let's not worry about quality of life, nor should we worry about the children of displaced workers. If their parents didn't make it, then they obviously come from inferior stock, so heck with them. Good idea.
11 posted on 02/06/2004 11:01:19 AM PST by brownsfan (I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I believe that the only way to limit the outsourcing of American jobs to overseas firms is to place a punitive tarriff on the importation of technical services.

If I call the help desk, and the person answering the phone is in India, what technical service was "imported" that a tarriff could be placed on?

12 posted on 02/06/2004 11:01:21 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Its Sprint, is'nt it? Its one of the worst run companies in America. Their stock is crap and has not moved for 3 years.
13 posted on 02/06/2004 11:03:19 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: SoothingDave
Count me in as a protectionist. Or at least require these great and benevolent corporations to put big red warning labels on their products and websites that say "NOTICE: products made in China and supported in India in order to avoid paying American wages".
14 posted on 02/06/2004 11:03:50 AM PST by Sender ("This is the most important election in the history of the world." -DU)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Wow, did you put on your asbestos shorts?! The hard liners are going the flame the heck out of you.
I consistently argue for perserving the means of production, and for making a level playing field. I argue that if you drive all wages down, sooner or later you'll sell less product.
The hard liners don't debate. They regurgitate their free market mantra. (They already have theirs, if you don't, you're a loser and a drain on society).
15 posted on 02/06/2004 11:04:07 AM PST by brownsfan (I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
What about the companies that stick to paying higher U.S. labor costs and get pummelled out of business by their competitors who outsource/offshore these functions? Those employees will still be out of work. Will you wish to hang those executives, then, as well?

Those greedy corporate executives will work in the "nation's interest" when those interests don't directly conflict. Too often, our "nation" is merely a growth-stifling money sucking machine, bent on taxing and regulating the crap out of everything that moves.

When we start asking corporations to behave in certain ways, I think we start treading on the Left's territory. They are the ones that want "socially conscious" businesses, "earth friendly", "diverse", etc. What's wrong with making a buck?

16 posted on 02/06/2004 11:04:12 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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Sorry, but I don't think it is very American of you to deny other Americans a consumer choice, Lunatic. You should really learn the concepts of supply and demand.

I'm a lunatic becaue I said I wouldn't mind buying American products?!?! I never suggested denying others that ChiCom crap they so desire, I just wouldn't mind buying something made in Illinois or Pennsylvania (or any of the other 48 states). Change your screen name to conservajerk.

17 posted on 02/06/2004 11:04:27 AM PST by Living Free in NH
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To: brownsfan
Let's not worry about quality of life, nor should we worry about the children of displaced workers.

Why should I be forced to pay more for services so somebody else and their kids can enjoy a higher quality of life? Sounds like welfarism to me.

18 posted on 02/06/2004 11:05:07 AM PST by Deliberator (Will read Viagra ads for pay.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
People don't care. Correction. People who think their jobs are safe don't care. They will when it comes around to their profession. Which is why its so funny that financial analysts positions are being outsourced from Wall Street to Punjab Street.
19 posted on 02/06/2004 11:05:55 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: brownsfan
I recognize that. But I have a hard time supporting people who demand others do with their money what they are unwilling to do with their own. And competition will always be "unfair". And your use of the term "living wage" and "children" is distrubing to me. Why are you using the language of the hard left?

And some workers are deserving of displacement through either their lack of skill, their job becoming obsolete, or better done elsewhere.

Many jobs are rightfully eliminated every year. Are these tech and help line jobs in that catagory? Maybe not.

20 posted on 02/06/2004 11:06:10 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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