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Thanks.

Actually, I found that interview. But there was a separate story. It might have been something dubious (Debka?). I thought they took it from that same paper.

It might have been my imagination.

But if anyone else remembers a rumor about 2 suitcase nukes, a serial number, and NYC a few weeks after 9/11, let me know. I'd hate to think that I'm now delusional. Maybe I too need to buy some tin foil?

Well now, if you REALLY want tinfoil....

I just tried to redo my search adding in the term, Serial Number to see if I could pull that specific article.

Look at this search message:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=The+Dawn+2001+serial+number

From Google:

"In response to a complaint we received under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint for these removed results."

I honestly don't know what was removed and why. Maybe it really was a copyright incident....but you never know now.

NothingMan,

LINK With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

For the story behind the story...

Sunday, Nov. 11, 2001 12:23 a.m. EST

Report: Probers Suspect Bin Laden Shipped Nukes to U.S.

A day after Osama bin Laden told a Pakistani newspaper that he had obtained nuclear weapons and is willing to use them against the U.S., another Pakistani paper claims investigators suspect he has pre-positioned the weapons inside America.

"Pakistani and American investigators believe that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network may have successfully transported several nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons of mass destruction to the United States," The Frontier Post reported Saturday.

A source with knowledge of the bin Laden nuke probe told the Post that the FBI, the CIA and Pakistani intelligence now believe that at least two briefcase-sized nuclear weapons may have reached U.S. shores.

Investigators have traced at least one of the weapons to bin Laden's Al-Qaeda terror network.

"The weapon identified is small 8-kilogram device that carries at least 2 kg of fissionable plutonium and uranium," the Post said. "The device, of Russian make, carries a serial number 9999 and manufacturing date October 1988."

The charging mechanism can reportedly be activated through a timer or even through a cell phone command.

In September, Rep. Christopher Shay, R-Conn., who has chaired 18 hearings on terrorism since 1998 as head of the House subcommittee on National Security, warned the bin Laden "suitcase nuke" scenario should be taken seriously.

"We've known for years that the host countries have developed nuclear and biological agents and that they haven't been reluctant to share them with the terrorists," Shays told WABC Radio's Sean Hannity. "And frankly, the race we have right now is to make sure that [terrorists] don't get a nuclear device."

Shays said an adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin had initially admitted to his committee that "out of 140 of [their tactical nukes], the Russians could only account for about 80 of them.

" "Now the Russians are denying that, and we don't really have a straight answer from our own government," he added. On Saturday, Putin discounted the bin Laden nuke threat, saying he doubted Al-Qaeda had obtained a nuclear device from Russian sources.

The White House echoed the Russian president, saying the U.S. had no evidence suggesting bin Laden had obtained nukes.

In 1992, former Soviet intelligence agent Stanislav Lunev first outlined the threat posed by Russia's suitcase nukes in his book "Through the Eyes of the Enemy." Lunev is the highest-ranking Soviet military spy ever to defect to the U.S.

To find out what Lunev told the CIA about Soviet suitcase nukes inside the U.S., get a copy of his exclusive interview with NewsMax.com, CIA Files.

Found it anyway. Seems to be a very old device:

http://nucnews.net/nucnews/2001nn/0111nn/011110nn.htm#005

This is a collection of copied articles, scroll down within the url. I pasted the one you are referring to here though:

Al-Qaeda nukes may have reached US shores
UNGA session possible terror target

Naveed Miraj
11/10/2001
The Frontier Post (Pakistan)
http://frontierpost.com.pk/main.asp?id=3&date1=11/10/2001

ISLAMABAD: Pakistani and American investigators converge that Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network may have successfully transported several nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons of mass destruction to the United States, The Frontier Post learnt Friday.

Already on high alert, United States security officials are having sleepless nights that Al Qaeda can strike in New York again on the occasion of United Nations General Assembly session.

Investigators from Pakistan's ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence) and American FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) and CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) are jointly probing into the possibilities of Al Qaeda possessing nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.

They have reached a conclusion that at least two briefcase nuclear weapons may have reached the US shores, sources close to these investigators revealed to this scribe.

The investigators have been able to identify at least one briefcase weapon acquired by Al Qaeda from Central Asian rogue groups.

The weapon identified is small 8-kilogram device that carries at least 2 kg of fissionable plutonium and uranium.

The device, of Russian make, carries a serial number 9999 and manufacturing date October 1988.

The design of the device is simple.

The radioactive materials consist of Uranium and Plutonium both kept in separate compartments.

At the top of the two compartments is placed the charging mechanism.

The charging mechanism can be activated through a timer or even through a cell phone command.

Besides nuclear devices, a chemical and a biological weapon have also been identified to be in the hands of Al Qaeda activists.

They are said to be in possession of at least 70 capsules, also of Russian origin, containing a very lethal biological agent.

Broken in a crowded place, this capsule can cause deaths on a huge scale.

It melts human body meat to the bone.

Another chemical agent in the hands of Al Qaeda operators is called Vipera Lebentina Venema.

A derivative of snake poisons, this venom developed in USSR attacks through skin.

Most probable way of using this agent is through mail as with Anthrax.

US security agencies are already on high alert and realise that Al Qaeda can strike in New York again on the occasion of UN General Assembly.

Analysis of the recent statements released by Osama bin Laden carried out by US agencies has shown that the terrorist network can pick up an important occasion like the UN General Assembly session to retaliate against US strikes on Afghanistan.

11/2001 Nuclear al-Qa`ida reportedly acquires a Russian-made suitcase nuclear weapon from Central Asian sources. The device is reported to weigh 8 kg and to possess at least 2 kg of fissionable uranium and plutonium. The report said the device, with a serial number of 9999 and a manufacturing date of October 1998, could be set off by a mobile phone signal.

11/14/2001 "Reports from Pakistan" "N-weapons May be in US Already," Daily Telegraph (Sydney, Australia), 14 November 2001