YOUR CHILD'S FIRST LESSON IN SOCIALISM

BoortzNuze ^ | 2-5-04 | Neal Boortz

[luckystarmom]

At our school, the kids have items that they share, and items that they don't share.

If it can fit into a pencil box in their desks, then it's theirs. If it's big like kleenex and the baby wipes, the teacher stores those and they use one or two boxes in the classroom.

They also share pencils because there is not a good pencil sharpener. The teacher keeps sharpened ones in a box, and the kids just take what they need and put back the unsharpened ones.

[netmilsmom]

Thank you so much!
You had a big influence on my hubby!

My daughter is doing so much better. She was pegged as "Pokey". She made it through the 1st grade curriculm in a month.
(the three year old can now sound out and read simple books. Her desire to learn was because she wanted to be like her sister!)

[netmilsmom]

>>I have never seen a teacher demand that all school supplies become everyone's property.<<
What state are YOU in?

[mrfixit514]

You're about to take the most precious thing in your life and turn it over to a government that, at some level, you know to be completely incompetent, for an education.

Complete BS. A vast majority of our citizens have public educations and we are the most productive and wealthy nation in history. Public education is not perfect but it is not as bad as the "Teacher Bashers" make it out to be. There is a very simple solution if you don't like public education. Send your children to a private school. Can't afford it? Whose fault is that? You made your choices. The people who bash education are people who complain about everything. It makes them feel better about themselves. They are usually very lonely people.

[Nea Wood]

From each according to their gullibility, to each according to their greed.

That should be quote of the day!

[netmilsmom]

Do you have kids?
Michigan, where I am right now, ranks 43rd in the United States in education. Our best private school here is a mediocre public school in other states. Michigan needs line workers so it educates line workers. I don't want my children to be line workers so I educate them at home.

[netmilsmom]

>>At our school, the kids have items that they share, and items that they don't share. <<

THAT is the way it should be!

[eyespysomething]

Hey Netmilsmom! Remember yesterday when I said that we have gotten the letter in the mail from the school re:absences and blah blah blah, and you told your amazement that they wouldn't accept a note from a parent as an excused absence?

My hubby went and met with the (get this) Attendance Officer at the school this a.m. He taped the whole thing, but gave me some highlights:

First they said his tardies were just a few, then 1/2 hour later they were excessive.

They offered to take some of the absences off, my husband said NO, he was absent, it was the policy that was the problem.

They apologized that we are being held to the same standard as "lying" parents. He told them he had no problem being held to the same standard, it was the standard that was the problem.

One more tardy, and 2 more absences without a DR's note this year (4 months to go) and they will issue an arrest warrant for my husband. I'm still trying to figure out the law they will be arresting him under. Oh yeah, the we-know-what's-best-for-your-kids-and-will-force-it-on-you-at-gunpoint law.

Hubby went to the sheriff's dept yesterday (he is good friends with them) and told them if they came and tried to take our son, he was coming out blazing (he was kidding, since he knows them, but they agree at the Sheriff's Office that it is ridiculous, the Sheriff laughed and laughed, and they want out of having to do this with the school. It seems they have more important things to do)

He got all this on tape, which, being a newspaper man, he pops out at the beginning, sits it on the desk, and says "You don't mind if I tape this do you?" Hee hee.

His editorial on the whole issue begins next week. It will focus on how the school will not let parents determine if a child is sick enough to go to school, that their notes from home are not proof enough to the BOE that the child was sick. In otherwords, they DO NOT trust the parents with their own kids.


Anyway, we are closer and closer to homeschooling. Are you happy with how its going?

[denfurb]

no offense, but I've spent a lot of time in Public Schools and I have never seen a teacher demand that all school supplies become everyone's property. If this is really the case, I'd appreciate it if anyone on this board could post the name of the school and the year it happened. please, let's get some details and not just this overly emotional blather. If this is the best arguement anyone on this board can make against public schools, it's not wonder we can't win the fight to save our children's educations.

Glenwood Elementary, Virginia Beach, VA every year I have been there since 9/1998

OK I guess I am a bit dense. It took me until about the 3rd grade to notice that my kids were coming to me for more paper, pencils, folders etc. I asked what happened to the stuff they brought on the first day of school and they told me the teacher took it. I could understand the soap and the tissue, but I thought they kept each kids stuff there so it would be handy when they ran out. (I did say I was a little dense, right?) The scenario described in the article was my Kindergarten daughter's exact experience this year. She was really bummed out that the teacher took her stuff. I made sure she had a second set of everything at home, so she had something of her own. For the older girls, I just sent what they needed, not everything on the list. If you just send them with one of everything, they end up keeping it and I have extras at home for when they need it.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Homeschool bump

[M-cubed]

It's the "Cheese Wagon" here...

[netmilsmom]

Whoa!!!
Can you link us to your hubbies article when it's done? Is there a website connected with his paper??
No matter what, keep me informed!

Homeschooling is the best decision we ever made! My daughter was a zoner and would not get the work done during the day (quiet was never demanded in the class). We would get three pages of homework + a four page spelling packet to be completed in a week. I have no problem with homework but at the end of the week, she would bring home 25 completed papers. Figure it out. They wanted to give her detention for not completing the work in class but when I asked the teacher how we could "work together" to keep her "on task" (to use their jargon), she told me, "I don't know". Rrrrrr.
There is a great bunch of homeschoolers here and there is great support. Think about it!

[VRW Conspirator]

My wife told the teacher "If a child doesn't have supplies, let me know and I'll get them for the child. But don't take my child's stuff". That fixed it.

LOL. Forced Socialism versus the good Samaritan.

[CalKat]

My son has been through 11 years of public school, and we have never encountered this situation. In elementary school he got the list of school supplies. Each kid kept everything but the Kleenex and soap at their desks for their own personal use. The Kleenex and soap was put on the counter and used one at a time by everyone in the class, which really makes sense. But no one ever tried to take his pencils or paper or anything and put it in a communal box.

[paul51]

bump

[Marie]

I know that they did it in an American military school (army) in Butzback Germany in the years 2000-2001 and 2001-2002. Good nuf?

[eyespysomething]

Can you link us to your hubbies article when it's done? Is there a website connected with his paper??

Nope, its a small weekly he just took over. He quit his job at the Macon Telegraph because they were a bunch of liberal weenies who didn't care that he was a dad, and wanted him to commute 100 miles a day, after 5 years at the paper. God opened another door for him, and we get Daddy at home now more.

As soon as he is done with it, I will post it here though. Boy is he mad.

The school district is ranked one of the last in GA, which is last in the nation: hence bottom of the bottom. BUT they just raised property taxes again 37%, after raising them 26% last year. Money=solutions. NOT! The citizens raised hell, the Superintendent quit (his kids didn't even go to the schools!) but the taxes went through. Luckily, one of the conservatives who have flocked to our area has been named as the replacement, and he is hell bent on straightening out the mess we are in.

[Sloth]

Six of her eight colored pencils were in the Community Box (the name was scratched out).

I would've been torn between 1.) retrieving the pencils, or 2.) stuffing them down the teacher's throat.

[workerbee]

From each according to their gullibility, to each according to their greed.

Excellent! May I borrow this sometime?

I'm reminded of a woman I used to work for telling me about how her 4th grader was learning about business in school. Her son decided to make and sell hot dogs. He was given X amount of dollars to buy the items, etc, and had to pay back the original amount from the profit. After everything was settled, he ended up with something like $25 clear. She went on to tell me how all the kids were being required to pool their profits and divide them equally among the class, which she thought was wonderful. I pointed out the obvious, that he earned it by working and should be able to keep his own profits, but to her it just didn't seem fair that some kids would have more than others. It didn't seem to dawn on her that some of the kids may have done absolutely nothing to earn any profit and that they would just be siphoning off the work her son did.

[JOAT]

I'd appreciate it if anyone on this board could post the name of the school and the year it happened. please, let's get some details and not just this overly emotional blather.

Ahh trusting soul that you must be, it has happened to each of my children every year since 1990. Well, at least the commies TRIED every year, but I instructed my progeny to keep their supplies in their backpacks and never turn them over, after the first child had his confiscated. Three different elementary schools, same commie policy.