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Spyware cures may cause more harm than good
C/Net News.com ^ | 2/4/2004 | John Borland

Posted on 02/05/2004 7:40:54 AM PST by justlurking

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To: N3WBI3
Ohh I hurt your feelings. I said I was glad Linux was getting better. I believe you. I just don't see proving somebody else right to be a worthy investment of my precious recreational time.
81 posted on 02/05/2004 10:09:22 AM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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To: justlurking
It doesn't take a rocket scientist. This has been going on for several years now.
82 posted on 02/05/2004 10:09:29 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: discostu
I hope that you know that I have been teasing you....

Seriously, I have suspected anti-viral and anti-spy software companies as the source of these attacks.

Yes, there are documented cases of young teens creating software, but those cases are rather rare.

Like I said before, I have been working with computers for well over 30 years now. My second micro-computer was Altair 8800.

Byte magazine once had a competition to write as self-replicating program. The winner was the following BASIC source code:

1) LIST

A few months later, a new company formed and was selling anti-viral software. Suddenly, withing six months, everyone was being infected with viral software.

Are you catching the drift yet?

My wife uses anti-viral software. Every person I work with uses anti-viral software on their computers.

They have all been infected and have experienced some major computer problems. Often, they have been forced to re-format their hard drives and install all of their software from scratch.

For 30 years now, I have refused to ever use anti-viral software. Amazingly, my computer never seems to suffer these problems. Not once in over 30 years!

Think about it.....

Actually, just last week, every computer at my company was no longer able to access the internet. They could access a website, but withing 30 seconds, Microsoft Internet Explorer would crash.

My computer never had this problem, so I had to help everyone else recover.

Think about it....

For 30 years now, I have refused to use any anti-viral software and have never experienced an attack.

83 posted on 02/05/2004 10:09:30 AM PST by Hunble
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To: N3WBI3
Oh and there's two reasons I don't do the game system thing:
1 - I'm a PC style gamer, many of the games I play come out on PC first and some even come out on PC only
2 - I like to watch TV while I'm playing, I'd need two TVs if I wanted to use a game system, and I'd still need a computer for e-mail webbing and resumes
84 posted on 02/05/2004 10:15:04 AM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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To: Hunble
Oh my, has my computer just been infected?

All usage of the word "within" was replaced by "withing" in my last posting.

It would be impossible for me, a superior human, to make a spelling error. My computer MUST be infected!

85 posted on 02/05/2004 10:15:20 AM PST by Hunble
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To: newgeezer
Absolutely!
86 posted on 02/05/2004 10:17:01 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Hunble
bump for later
87 posted on 02/05/2004 10:18:20 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: discostu
My feelings are not hurt at all just do not want you to look like a fool again when you talk about an OS you dont use..
88 posted on 02/05/2004 10:21:37 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: Hunble
I caught the humor. Most of what you've said is true to various degrees though. The best humor is built on a nugget of truth.

I'm not sure they're responsible for the attacks, but they certainly are responsible for the paranoia.

Your own brain is still and always will be the best viral protection. I remember when the "I love you" virus rampaged through a company I worked at, the first person infected was our HR person, I got an e-mail from her with the subject "I love you" and decided this must be a virus, she and I had never been close and she knew better than to use company resources for sexual harassment. 5 minutes later the e-mail went around telling everyone that was a virus... duh. By that point I'd already gone to McAffee and gotten the spot protection for that one (closing the loophole).
89 posted on 02/05/2004 10:22:46 AM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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To: Terpfen
I've had some spyware that Spybot didn't catch and Adaware did, so I use both now.
90 posted on 02/05/2004 10:22:55 AM PST by Rebelbase ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure put it in your tagline too!)
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To: N3WBI3
You told me Linux has fixed that and I believe you. I won't say Linux needs to improve their hardware support again. I appreciate folks that correct my mistakes, because I'm not a tweaker and not into the bleeding edge I rely on friendly people like you to let me know when stuff has progressed to the point I might actually need to consider a switch. Linux is taking steps, they might even do it. I'm ready when they are, but I'm not an early adopter and will not be riding it out waiting for them to be ready, that's what folks like you are for ;)
91 posted on 02/05/2004 10:26:22 AM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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To: martin_fierro
I'm so glad I switched to the Mozilla browser. I think I took the leap at a recommendation of yours from a FR thread a couple months ago. Love it and their mail program as well.


92 posted on 02/05/2004 10:30:13 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: dts32041
Yes but it [Spybot] should be used with Ad Aware

How does Ad-Aware compliment Spybot? I've been led to believe that'd be like saying although you have a Corvette, you really need to keep a Camaro close at hand to make sure you get around the racetrack.

93 posted on 02/05/2004 10:32:34 AM PST by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a true capitalist!)
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To: N3WBI3
Cheap at the price, and I don't see much hassle from here.
94 posted on 02/05/2004 10:34:21 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: justlurking
bflr
95 posted on 02/05/2004 10:37:09 AM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: arasina
Thanks for remembering the link!

Mozilla is nice, but I prefer Opera.
96 posted on 02/05/2004 10:40:58 AM PST by martin_fierro (Chat is my milieu)
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To: newgeezer
There are certain spyware that each miss, so you run both, like wearing suspenders and belts on the pants.
97 posted on 02/05/2004 10:41:31 AM PST by dts32041 (Will Kerry ever call his wife an African American?)
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To: newgeezer; dts32041
Spybot and Ad-Aware are complementary. One often catches items the other misses, especially on machines that have a lot of spyware loaded on them. Think about it as putting out rat traps and rat poison. Either way, the rats end up dead, but some won't eat the poison, some won't approach the trap, but most will do one or the other.
98 posted on 02/05/2004 10:42:57 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: dts32041
Do you run multiple anti-virus programs, too? That would seem to follow the same reasoning. :-)
99 posted on 02/05/2004 10:43:56 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: newgeezer
BUMP
100 posted on 02/05/2004 10:47:06 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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