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To: Aquinasfan
Therefore, those who participate in the act harm themselves.

Even among heterosexuals? Even as part of a more general procreative regime?

Since they are also members of society, they harm society, just as a single broken egg damages a dozen eggs.

How so? Nobody in a society has a duty to procreate. Do you propose requiring everyone to have X number of children during their lifetime?

Such is certainly the case regarding sodomy. This crime strikes at the heart of society, since without procreation society itself ceases to exist.

If an individual chooses no to procreate, that is no business of society.

264 posted on 02/04/2004 11:15:13 AM PST by Modernman ("The details of my life are quite inconsequential...." - Dr. Evil)
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To: Modernman
Even among heterosexuals? Even as part of a more general procreative regime?

Heterosexual sodomy? Of course it can be criminalized, in principle. In practice, it isn't practical. Enforcement would create more problems than it would solve.

Since they are also members of society, they harm society, just as a single broken egg damages a dozen eggs.

How so? Nobody in a society has a duty to procreate. Do you propose requiring everyone to have X number of children during their lifetime?

Participation in unnatural acts (i.e., bulemia) harms those engaged in them. Abusing one's reproductive powers is a greater form of self-abuse than something like bulemia since it is an abuse of one of man's noblest powers, the power of procreation. A pervert diminishes himself just as a theif diminishes himself. Since a pervert is a member of society, his diminishment directly diminishes society (society is simply a collection of individuals, the welfare of which is more important than the welfare of a single individual). Moreover, someone who engages in sodomy is diminished by the act and is disposed to harm society in other ways.

Such is certainly the case regarding sodomy. This crime strikes at the heart of society, since without procreation society itself ceases to exist.

If an individual chooses no to procreate, that is no business of society.

It isn't? Without new generations, society ceases to exist. Certainly, single people aren't obligated to procreate, since fornication is an evil. But married people are obligated to procreate, within reason. (See On the Regulation of Birth)

282 posted on 02/04/2004 11:30:12 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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