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Post-Super Bowl, Bare Breasts on 'ER' Raise Alarm (Nipplegate II, Coming Thursday Night on NBC)
TelevisionWeek ^
| February 3, 2004
Posted on 02/04/2004 12:41:02 AM PST by Timesink
Tuesday, Feb. 3, 2004
Post-Super Bowl, Bare Breasts on 'ER' Raise Alarm
Only days after the firestorm created when Janet Jackson exposed her breast during the Super Bowl, plans to air an episode of "ER" on NBC Thursday evening that includes a view of an elderly female patient's bare breast are raising serious concerns among the network's affiliates.
Some NBC affiliates are so uneasy about the scene planned for the first night of sweeps that at least one station group executive described himself Tuesday as "considering what my options are" should NBC decide to air the hour with the exposed breast. "You're not going to find the stations very willing to take the heat," said the station group executive. "I think people are going to be backing off big-time."
NBC had no comment at presstime but is aware of the potential for some affiliates to refuse to air the episode. Senior network executives had screened the scene for members of the NBC affiliates advisory board during a Las Vegas meeting held in conjunction with NATPE in mid-January.
At the time, affiliates expressed what were described as "concerns" about the scene and whether it is, even if done in good taste, essential to the drama, but no final decision was reached. After the board discussion, some affiliates had been told that award winning "ER" executive producer John Wells was unwilling to cut the scene.
Now many affiliates are even more concerned. The post-Super Bowl climate has every station owner feeling super sensitive.
There is a pending FCC investigation of the Super Bowl incident. Last week some stations were fined for earlier incidents and the White House endorsed a call for a ten-fold increase in fines for indecency on TV. There are already indecency hearings on Capitol Hill scheduled and more being threatened.
In light of the atmosphere of fear which has been created, even a tastefully shot, full-on glimpse of a bare breast in a network primetime show inspires less academic and more fearful discussions and concerns. That context led the group executive to predict that should NBC keep the breast scene in, there could be significant defections by affiliates who won't air the show.
John Wells was unavailable for comment. #
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: cbs; culturewar; debauchery; er; hedonism; hedonist; nbc; nbcschadenfreude; nipplegate; nipplegate2; nipplegateii; noshame; romans1; schadenfreude; sodom; superbowl; trash; trashtv; worldviewconflict
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To: BibChr
a tastefully shot, full-on glimpse of a bare breast What the heck does "tastefully shot" mean?
To: ChrisCoolC
I wonder what's next.
Maybe ER could come up with a scene about a full gynocology (sp?) exam. The audience needs to see that.
42
posted on
02/04/2004 7:07:55 AM PST
by
AD from SpringBay
(We have the government we allow and deserve.)
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Fantastic new picture of Dean ... His next stint will be Saturday night live ... Giggle....
WTG
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posted on
02/04/2004 7:10:54 AM PST
by
joan_30
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Fantastic new picture of Dean ... His next stint will be Saturday night live ... Giggle....
WTG
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posted on
02/04/2004 7:10:56 AM PST
by
joan_30
To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
Good question.
My guess would be that it means that the writer he knows it is tasteless, but he likes it.
Dan
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posted on
02/04/2004 7:16:30 AM PST
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: Fenris6
Idiots all - why is "a view of an elderly female patient's bare breast" even necessary? Does it advance the plot or help develop the characters? If not it's just gratuitous titillation.
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posted on
02/04/2004 7:59:19 AM PST
by
kanawa
(that which is born in blood must need die in blood)
To: All
Bah, now I remember why I quit watching ER years ago.
To: the-ironically-named-proverbs2; MissAmericanPie; 2sheep; Jeremiah Jr
Why they did it? Because they could.
There is no fear of God before their eyes.
Looks like it's way past mene, mene, and tekel, and past the time and times, and on to peres at the dividing of time er half time.
To: EdReform
You are right - a better choice of words - the sewer.
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posted on
02/04/2004 8:07:15 AM PST
by
ClancyJ
(It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
To: Timesink
Here's another take on the Superbowl and family values, by Tammy Bruce:
Exposing Viacoms Indecency
By Tammy Bruce
FrontPageMagazine.com | February 3, 2004
I will admit that I dont normally watch football, but I sure was on Sunday. As fate would have it, I arrived at a Super Bowl Party at Halftime. As they say, timing is everything.
Those of you who read my book The Death of Right and Wrong were not entirely surprised by what you saw Sunday night masquerading as the Halftime showa variety of so-called singers and dancers providing nothing less than a Peep Show for your family.
All day long Ive been fascinated with the focus being on the baring of Jacksons breast during the family hour on the West Coast (considering Ms. Jacksons family problem, perhaps we shouldnt be so surprised that she didnt consider the combination of sex and children problematic). In fact, the entire production was insulting and offensive.
Come on now, I immediately knew America was in for an assault when rap singer Nelly got on stage and was unable to keep his hand off his crotch. It was astoundinghere was a man on broadcast television, with millions of children watching raptly, holding onto his penis as though it were a weapon throughout his performance.
And CBS stayed with it!
Then, of course, we get to the supposed wardrobe malfunction as singer (and I use that adjective with reservations) Justin Timberlake described it. Lets be honesteither these people are complete idiots or they think we are. During a song with a main refrain of Ill have you naked by the end of this song Timberlake managed it quite aptly, and exposed Jacksons breasta breast, mind you, that looked like it had been adorned for a very special coming out party.
Personally, and as a cultural critic, I am concerned with those who do not think this a big deal. Let me assure you, it is. Why? Because its reflective of Incrementalisma slow, gradual effort at cultural change, a change that is decidedly downward.
The goal of Incrementalism is to present the depraved or offensive slowly, progressively and then more regularly over a period of time so it becomes apparently normal. Thats whats happening here. Keep in mind, its only the horrible that needs to sneak up on us. Americans always let the wonderful in the front door.
If youre wondering how Incrementalism works, lets, however painful it might be, look at Howard Dean. Dean, the one-time top Democratic presidential challenger, said the uproar over the exposure of Jacksons breast is silly.
And then in a comment which really sums up why this man is better suited to be managing a shift at Taco Bell instead of running this great country (Yeeeaaarhhgh!) said, I find that to be a bit of a flap about nothing. I'm probably affected in some ways by the fact that I'm a doctor, so it's not exactly an unusual phenomenon for me."
Wow! So, doctors see strangers having their clothes ripped off in sexual situations in front of the children of the nation on a regular basis!? Of course, hes reduced this to the sight of a breast. Just like finding Saddam was the equivalent of catching some weird homeless guy. Depth seems to escape Dr. Dean.
But he didnt stop there. Dean, who does not have cable television at his home in Vermont, exemplified the moral relativism that has a stranglehold on the American left: "I don't find it terribly shocking relative to some of the things you can find on standard cable television
Slowly but surely, because awful things are out there, we are expected to lower our bar of standards, quality and decency. The this-is-okay-because-of-that-thing-over-there syndrome. This is the heart of Howard Deans reasoning.
By the way, AOL/Time Warner was the sponsor for the Halftime show. Why is that worth noting? And why does Howard Dean feel the need to be the new apologist for what happened during the Halftime show? Guess who is Howard Deans (who will not, will not, be a shill for Special Interests) second largest campaign contributor? You have one more second
thats right! Time Warner.
And dont be surprised if you suddenly hear John Kerry, the now-leading Democratic candidate, chime in with a roar of indignation about our displeasure with the pathetic indecent display sponsored by AOL. Guess who is John Kerrys second all-time contributor? Time Warner, just under Kerry #1 contributor (a law firm) and just above the Kerry #3 contributor (a law firm).
Lawyers and media companies. Yep, the Democrats are gonna sock it right to those Special Interestslike the American people, decency, and the right of our children to not be sexualized by the time they are 5 years old.
Now let me make something clear hereI have not been possessed by the ghost of a nun who is shocked at the sight of flesh. But there is a time and place for everything. I happen to think, as I hope most of you do, that a womans body is a beautiful thing. As adults if we want to see a womans breast bared on television, we have that optionlate at night, when weve chosen the program, were aware of what were getting, and the children are tucked away.
And accepting that option is not meant as a complete abdication of what (and when) we feel certain material is appropriate. We can draw lines for the public airwaves, and we do.
I personally like films and television that challenge our notions of who we are, including our sexuality. But thats my interest as an adult, and it very well may be an interest very different from yours. The choices we make about sexuality and its imagery are and should be private choices. Viacom and its two mutant childrenMTV and CBStook that choice from us, and decided their view of sexuality would not only be put upon us, but on our children as well, contemptibly wrapped up as family entertainment.
Despite what the nihilistic heads at Viacom may think, Americans are not asleep at the cultural wheel. First, for a list of what Viacom owns, go to Who Owns What at
http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/ and scroll down to Viacom. Complain to the FCC at www.fcc.gov and let Chairman Michael Powell know you support the investigation and want Viacom and its subsidiaries to face severe consequences for their actions. The Parents Television Council at www.parentstv.org is also leading the way on many issues, including the Halftime debacle.
Its worth remembering that radio network Infinity was fined for a St. Patricks "Sex in the Cathedral" radio stunt. Viacom, which also owns Infinity (surprise!), was told by the FCC that future violations by the company could prompt a license revocation proceeding.
Now isnt that a novel idea! Broadcast licenses are not granted for eternity. Licenses can be revoked or not renewed. Would it be unusual? Yes, but its time for the unusual, including the need to take back our culture. Tearing down certain institutions which continually betray us, and reminding the cultural gatekeepers about who is really in charge, is our responsibility. That time is now.
Tammy Bruce is a Fox News Channel Contributor and author of The Death of Right and Wrong.
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posted on
02/04/2004 8:12:15 AM PST
by
Eva
To: Anubus
Why is it - we have to say something? Great - all the purient producers have to do is put it before the public and judge whether the outcry is sufficient to make it a bad choice for them.
When we get tired and are living our lives instead of being a judge for tv - they get to run with their glorified nudity. Then on to the next barrier.
No - I will think twice about allowing such producers access to my home. I have banned shows - I can ban networks.
One of these days - someone will realize that there is a vast market for GOOD tv where there is no need to monitor each and every hour that it enters the home.
We are due another "FOX" moment. A network that will provide great entertainment without seeking to "push the envelope".
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posted on
02/04/2004 8:16:42 AM PST
by
ClancyJ
(It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
Well - the tide may be turning.
As I mentioned before - there is now a need for a network that DOES NOT SEEK TO BRING SLEAZE IN OUR HOMES.
Let them "make do" with less than half the market for their ratings. I will be looking for those producers who see the need to honor my home - not desecrate it.
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posted on
02/04/2004 8:19:51 AM PST
by
ClancyJ
(It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
To: kanawa
Advance the plot? Advance the plot? Who are you kidding - nudity never advances the plot. It is used in place of a plot.
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posted on
02/04/2004 8:23:30 AM PST
by
ClancyJ
(It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
To: kanawa
Advance the plot? Advance the plot? Who are you kidding - nudity never advances the plot. It is used in place of a plot.
54
posted on
02/04/2004 8:23:33 AM PST
by
ClancyJ
(It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
To: Thinkin' Gal
"
dividing of time er half time."
LOL
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
ROFL!
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posted on
02/04/2004 8:33:46 AM PST
by
P.O.E.
(Then sigh not so, But let them go, And be you blithe and bonny - Shakespeare)
To: ClancyJ
wonder why the sudden necessity to show a female breast? Why is it impossible to cut that scene?It's called another shot across the bows of morality.
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posted on
02/04/2004 8:37:40 AM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
To: Terry Mross
Guess the next thing will be windows so people can watch the doctors examining their patients. Ewwwww..... Coming, this Fall to CBS. An exciting new Medical Drama:
Dr. Fingerman, Proctologist
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posted on
02/04/2004 8:39:26 AM PST
by
freedumb2003
(Peace through Strength)
To: ClancyJ
nudity never advances the plot. It is used in place of a plot.Difficult to disagree with that. Possible counter-examples, off the top of my head, are 'The Full Monty' and 'The Crying Game"
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posted on
02/04/2004 8:42:04 AM PST
by
kanawa
(that which is born in blood must need die in blood)
To: kanawa
Wouldn't know much about those two. Probably had a ton of nudity and x-rated material. Why would I want to watch such?
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posted on
02/04/2004 9:07:20 AM PST
by
ClancyJ
(It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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