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Assault on Science Spreads
Objectivist Center ^ | 2/3/04 | Edward Hudgins

Posted on 02/03/2004 6:36:45 PM PST by RJCogburn

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1 posted on 02/03/2004 6:36:45 PM PST by RJCogburn
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To: PatrickHenry
Incoming!
2 posted on 02/03/2004 6:37:36 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: RJCogburn
Personally i dont see evolution and creationism as being mutually exclusive of each other. teach both.
3 posted on 02/03/2004 6:39:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (.50 cal border fence)
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I'm with you.
4 posted on 02/03/2004 7:01:33 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: *crevo_list; VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; ...
PING. [This ping list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. FReepmail me to be added or dropped.]
5 posted on 02/03/2004 7:02:03 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Theory: a comprehensible, falsifiable, cause-and-effect explanation of verifiable facts.)
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To: cripplecreek
They are...Creation is faith...and Evolution is Science.

Granted evolution is just a theory. Much like the theory of gravity or electromagnetism. However I don't see folks jumping off high buildings to dispute gravity or sticking a fork in a socket to challenge electromagnetism.

Why is evolution so easily assailed?..because of scientific reason?...no. Because there are no dire consequences for challeging evolution.
6 posted on 02/03/2004 7:05:48 PM PST by tcuoohjohn (Follow The Money)
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great post
7 posted on 02/03/2004 7:17:45 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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Why is evolution so easily assailed?..because of scientific reason?...no. Because there are no dire consequences for challeging evolution. And because it is a slow process. Evolutionary changes within a single human lifetime can hardly be noticed.
8 posted on 02/03/2004 7:22:24 PM PST by reg45
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To: RJCogburn
"This belief, of course, reflects a profound misunderstanding of the nature of ethics. As Ayn Rand shows, the need for an ethical code arises from the fact that our survival and flourishing require us to exercise our free will and rational capacity—to focus our minds, to choose to think. "

Men can create all sorts of morality codes, and yes, religions and anti-religions. There is only one reality, and it would behoove man to seek that one Truth, established by our creator. Only the code established by God has authority over our lives.
9 posted on 02/03/2004 7:28:32 PM PST by Rocky
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And because it is a slow process. Evolutionary changes within a single human lifetime can hardly be noticed.

Funny - I have (had) two sisters that are both blondes (natural) - and my brothers and I have brown hair and we both have the same parents! My Mom's hair was kinda dark brown and my Dad's was brown ...

How does that work anyway!?

10 posted on 02/03/2004 7:28:35 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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Your parents both carry the recessive gene for blondness. The gene is called recessive because when a given individual has both a recessive gene and the corresponding dominant gene (in this case, for dark hair), the dominant gent wins out. Even so, the individual is a "carrier" for the recessive trait in that he can contribute the recessive gene to offspring. Your sisters got a blond copy from both your father and your mother, while you and your brother got two darks or a dark and a blond gene. You and your brother could have blond children if you are blond "carriers", but if your sisters marry blond men, they will by definition have blond children.
11 posted on 02/03/2004 7:33:20 PM PST by Still Thinking
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To: RJCogburn
> What are they scared of? Why does this truth so frighten them?

I know there is a lot of fear out there, and perhaps ignorance - but it is on both sides of this issue. This is science, and not all times is that fact. It is not faith. I am very scientific, and I am a man of great faith. The two go hand-in-hand in my eyes. There is a scientific difference between theory and law. And even when it comes to scientific law, there have been times that scientific laws have been proven false. A prime example of that is Newtonian mechanics, in particular the "law of gravity". Sorry folks, but Newton was not always right. And it is pretty obvious that Darwin wasn't right either. A scientific mind is not a close mind. Often times the activist scientific community - those with a political agenda have a big problem with Creationism. Actually they have a big problem with God, capitalism, and a number of other issues. These are the people to avoid, because, there are very few among them that have a great scientific mind. Unfortunately they are also spiritually bankrupt at the same time, so say prayers for them. You will find that greatest minds in science are all wondering, awe-inspired, and God believing individuals. They are the ones with the open minds - the type of minds that can handle the abstraction of faith, and the realm of impossibility.
12 posted on 02/03/2004 7:54:53 PM PST by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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Oooo! A Festival of Anti-Darwin Harpies AND Rand-Haters all in a single thread. Anti-Science meets anti-reason.
13 posted on 02/03/2004 8:05:30 PM PST by longshadow
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To: cripplecreek
Neither did the Pope, and he said so several years ago.
14 posted on 02/03/2004 8:05:39 PM PST by JSteff
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To: RJCogburn
Here's what I think about that.
15 posted on 02/03/2004 8:07:01 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: RJCogburn
I blame it on Gould and mushy crackers.

;)
16 posted on 02/03/2004 8:23:15 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: RJCogburn
Naturalism posing as Science needs to be assaulted.
17 posted on 02/03/2004 8:40:10 PM PST by Ahban
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To: RJCogburn
INTREP
18 posted on 02/03/2004 9:55:05 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: cripplecreek
I don't believe in evolution, but am not threatened by having to learn it for biology classes. BOTH teach that we come from a common ancestor and all the BS about 'us vs. them' racism is just bull chips. My biology professor in undergraduate intro was a creationist, but he never got up on the soapbox about it.
19 posted on 02/03/2004 9:59:35 PM PST by cyborg
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To: PatrickHenry
Thanks for the ping!
20 posted on 02/03/2004 10:02:04 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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