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Ex-Presidents, Johnson Widow Call for JFK Film Probe
AP via TBO ^ | February 2,2004 | Lynn Elber

Posted on 02/02/2004 6:20:27 PM PST by John W

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Two former presidents and the widow of Lyndon B. Johnson are calling on the History Channel to investigate a documentary it aired alleging President Johnson was involved in the Kennedy assassination. Lady Bird Johnson said the film "falsely and irresponsibly" accuses her husband of conspiring to kill President Kennedy.

No accusation made against Johnson "has hurt as painfully," the 91-year-old former first lady said in a Jan. 29 letter. Her husband died in 1973.

Copies of her letter were sent to the chief executives of three companies that own A&E Networks, which includes the History Channel. The letters went to Bob Wright of NBC, Victor Ganzi of Hearst Corp. and Michael Eisner of The Walt Disney Co.

Former Presidents Ford and Carter also sent letters citing the documentary, "The Guilty Men," which aired last November as part of a series of History Channel specials on the Nov. 22, 1963 assassination.

Ford, noting he was the last surviving member of the Warren Commission that determined Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing Kennedy, called the History Channel documentary "reprehensible."

Alleging that Johnson, as Kennedy's vice president, was part of a conspiracy to murder him is "the greatest, most damaging accusation ever made against a former vice president and president in American History," Ford, 90, wrote in his Jan. 23 letter.

The letters were released Monday to The Associated Press by Tom Johnson, chairman of the LBJ Foundation and a representative of the Johnson family.

Calls to NBC and Disney were not immediately returned.

"We don't comment on correspondence with our chief executive officer," said Hearst spokesman Paul Luthringer.

Tom Johnson said he and three other former Johnson aides planned to meet Wednesday with executives of the History Channel and A&E Television Networks to press for an investigation and for its findings to be made public.

Nickolas Davatzes, president of A&E Television Networks, was expected to take part, History Channel spokeswoman Lynn Gardner said Tuesday.

Other Johnson aides scheduled to participate are Jack Valenti, now head of the Motion Picture Association of America; journalist Bill Moyers; and attorney Larry Temple.

"I'm puzzled, bewildered, that a distinguished enterprise like the History Channel would put on the air such garbage, such ugliness," Valenti said in November. "It makes one sick."

When the Kennedy series aired, the History Channel said in a statement that the point of view in "The Guilty Men" was "meticulously researched."

"By presenting different viewpoints we enable our viewers to decide to agree or disagree with them and to arrive at their own conclusions," the channel said.


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To: FreedomCalls
I've posted three photos.

That's like going to the Clinton library to prove that Clinton never committed treason. lol You're seeing what Hoover et al wanted you to see.

81 posted on 02/02/2004 9:59:59 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: John W

82 posted on 02/02/2004 10:04:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: FreedomCalls
Where are you starting from -- the center of the back? Let me be real slow here for you. If .... you .... start .... from .... where .... the .... picture .... in .... 37 .... shows .... the .... entrance .... wound .... to .... be .... and .... follow .... it .... 45 .... degrees, .... you .... will .... exit .... just .... above .... the .... collarbones .... at .... the .... base .... of .... the .... neck.

Are you aware that 45 degrees is perfectly diagonal? Stand with your back against a wall in front of a mirror that's sideways to you, go perfectly diagonal from the back and you'll see the exit is at the stomach. Even starting at the very top of the back the exit is still at the bottom of the ribcage. Back-to-throat is upwards!

83 posted on 02/02/2004 10:05:08 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
You're seeing what Hoover et al wanted you to see.

So then what are you saying? The autopsy photo is a fake? The car's seats were not in the same position as depicted in the photo? And that is not Kennedy's shirt? It's all fake? As opposed to what? The evidence consisting here so far in this thread of a single hand-drawn illustraion that is wrong based on every photo taken that day? How many people were in on your "conspiracy"? Everybody with a camera in Dealy Plaza that day? You'll need a triple-layer of tinfoil to deflect that amount of bunkum.

84 posted on 02/02/2004 10:05:22 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
And a sucker willing to part with his money.

The pro-Warren Report book writers know that for sure.

85 posted on 02/02/2004 10:06:26 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Are you aware that 45 degrees is perfectly diagonal?

Are you aware that your collarbone is much lower than the back of your collar?

86 posted on 02/02/2004 10:07:20 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
The '64 report itself shows & documents the holes in JFKs jacket & shirt line up & are almost 6" down from the collar.


-- Which doesn't square with the botched autopsy photo you're touting.

-- And, - those holes do not line up with a bullet from the 'snipers nest' exiting JFKs throat.
Alan Spector made a really stupid mistake in releasing the clothes evidence..
87 posted on 02/02/2004 10:07:58 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines a conservative. (writer 33 )
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To: FreedomCalls
If you want to stump the Oliver Stone Fan Club members, ask them to show you where the shooters were positioned to cause the bullet trajectories in post 4.

If Kennedy's throat wound is really an entrance wound, Mrs. Connolly would have to be the shooter. Too funny!
88 posted on 02/02/2004 10:11:35 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: FreedomCalls
Typical.
All you have are your opinions that it was an 'easy shot' formulated from an ABC cartoon documentory..
89 posted on 02/02/2004 10:12:36 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines a conservative. (writer 33 )
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To: #3Fan
Are you aware that 45 degrees is perfectly diagonal? Stand with your back against a wall in front of a mirror that's sideways to you, go perfectly diagonal from the back and you'll see the exit is at the stomach. Even starting at the very top of the back the exit is still at the bottom of the ribcage.

I've borrowed this photo of this fine gentleman and tracing a 45-degree angle from the bottom of the knot on his tie upwards ends up at a position where the photo in 37 shows the other wound to be. Try it. Get out a protractor and use the image on your screen. Right now. Go do it.


90 posted on 02/02/2004 10:13:09 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: #3Fan
Hardly. There is Posner and Warren on the one side. On the other is a whole zoo full of conspiracy therorist's books.
91 posted on 02/02/2004 10:14:22 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
So then what are you saying? The autopsy photo is a fake?

Kennedy didn't have earlobes and the back of his head was gone. Those photos are of someone else. Earlobes just don't magically appear.

The car's seats were not in the same position as depicted in the photo?

Doesn't matter with a 45 degree entrance angle. The bullet would've hit the floorboard.

And that is not Kennedy's shirt?

Yes, that's his shirt. Think about who else was killed that day while Oswald was already in the theater by the way. There were two bodies in the morgue at the same time that looked a lot alike. How convenient.

It's all fake? As opposed to what? The evidence consisting here so far in this thread of a single hand-drawn illustraion that is wrong based on every photo taken that day?

With a 45 degree entrance wound it doesn't matter anyway.

How many people were in on your "conspiracy"?

Hoover, Johnson, and the police chief at least.

Everybody with a camera in Dealy Plaza that day?

Most of the footage wasn't realeased for years. Who knows what is real.

You'll need a triple-layer of tinfoil to deflect that amount of bunkum.

Was the Henry Marshall "suicide" really a suicide? Explain how a guy commits suicide with a bolt-action rifle and shoots himself 5 times in the head with it.

92 posted on 02/02/2004 10:16:35 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: tpaine
All you have are your opinions

No, I went out and did it! I used a Mosin-Nagant instead of a Mannlicher-Carcano since that was all I had, but it was simple even with the more difficult to use Nagant bolt. I did not have to rush at all. Have you tried it?

93 posted on 02/02/2004 10:18:32 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
Are you aware that your collarbone is much lower than the back of your collar?

Now you've got the entrance wound clear up at the base of the skull? Come on now, you're changing the evidence.

94 posted on 02/02/2004 10:19:35 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: John W
Johnson was a crook. I don't know if he was part of the murder plot. Isn't it just alot of fun to rewrite history any way you like. The liberal do it all the time.

Let see the next story if that FDR started WWII to save Russia from getting there ass kicked by the Germans.
95 posted on 02/02/2004 10:20:43 PM PST by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: BigBobber
If Kennedy's throat wound is really an entrance wound, Mrs. Connolly would have to be the shooter. Too funny!

There was a bullet hole in the windshield.

96 posted on 02/02/2004 10:21:56 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
As I suspected. Any evidence I present you will dismiss as either fake, fraudulent, or "it doesn't matter". Any opinion you have is irrefutable even when no evidence at all is presented.

I might as well argue with a stump. Good bye.

97 posted on 02/02/2004 10:22:52 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
I've borrowed this photo of this fine gentleman and tracing a 45-degree angle from the bottom of the knot on his tie upwards ends up at a position where the photo in 37 shows the other wound to be. Try it. Get out a protractor and use the image on your screen. Right now. Go do it.

That would make the entance wound in the base of the skull. The magic bullet entrance wound was in the back.

98 posted on 02/02/2004 10:23:46 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: FreedomCalls
Hardly. There is Posner and Warren on the one side. On the other is a whole zoo full of conspiracy therorist's books.

There a zoo full of books on the American Revolution too, that doesn't mean the Revolution didn't happen.

99 posted on 02/02/2004 10:24:48 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: FreedomCalls
The holes in the back of JFKs clothes are roughly horizontal from the 'fine gents' tie..

His clothes still exist.. They are hard evidence.. As is the Z film.

Most of the rest of the evidence has been compromised in one way or another.

100 posted on 02/02/2004 10:25:36 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines a conservative. (writer 33 )
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