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Ramblings' Journal | 2.2.04 | Michael King

[humboldtconservative]

Sorry, the first pic link i saw was not quite as close and looked like a pasty. It is clearly some sort of metal object...clip-on or pierced, I don't know.

[MattAMiller]

but all of this over a covered boob is preposterous.

Personally I'm more offended by the lieing and the sleezy hype. But there's also the matter of this occuring during a family oriented broadcast.

[humboldtconservative]

But there's also the matter of this occuring during a family oriented broadcast.

It happened so fast, I don't know how it corrupted all of the kids. Besides, what normal 12 year old boy hasn't seen so much more than that in their e-mail inbox?

If this happened anywhere else in the world it would be a non-story.

[CyberCowboy777]

When would it have been inappropriate? Would you stand up if hse had don ethe whole act without a top? Where is the line? Let us know now, cuase it is not fair when the line keeps moving.

The whole half time show was explicit and I sent my son out of the room long before JJ let it all hang out.

We have standards in this country, standards that say I can let my kid watch a football game without fear of breasts or groin grabbing or simulated sex acts. They may not offend you, you may not watch them, but it is difficult enough to raise boys without having sexual content throw in their face.

My wife and I saw the breast plain as day (maybe you should get satellite or cable or a bigger screen?).

[humboldtconservative]

Unlike un-football fans, i was busy during halftime. I don't watch for the commercials or the halftime, and don't remember any of them. Just because it's on the TV you have to watch it?

Was any part of the game during halftime? If you felt it was inappropriate, you did the right thing and sent your kid out of the room. So, no harm right?

How long was this horrible image actually on TV?? A second...less?

Sorry to say, that I'm sure your son has seen more in a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue than he would have yesterday.

[ecurbh]

HairOfTheDog knows, that's the important thing! ;~D

[HairOfTheDog]

What's your point Ann Archy? The humboldt guy signed up like six days ago

ROTFL! now that ~is~ funny!

[CyberCowboy777]

I am certain he has never seen a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue.

No harm? Does it matter? I had to quickly send my kid out because a line was crossed. And we are not talking about just the boob - but then you did not see any of the half time show - so you have no clue what was being done.

I am a football fan, I watch the SB for football. So I am not sure what you are implying. how about his - Unlike unprepared qusa-football fans we had everything ready to go and only quick jaunts to the kitchen are required. I did get a new batch of nachos going - and I still saw most of the freak fest.

A line was crossed - I should be able to leave my kid in the room while watching a football game while I get a bag of chips. The rules say I do not have to worry about groin grabs and girls pumping and rubbing other girls and boobs at 5:00pm on Sunday.

If you are going to change the rules then fine - but do not act all indigent when we get upset because the rules were broken.

[Flightdeck]

You know, I still don't know what ROTFL means. I could go on and on pretending, but I'm just going to suck it up and ask. ?

[ecurbh]

ROTFL = Rolling On The Floor Laughing

Used to denote a particularly humorous post.

[Salamander]

Aw, man.
I thought I was the only person in the world who even
-remembered- those shows!...:))

I watched Night Flight every weekend til it just up and vanished.
Both Midnight Special and Kirshner were Saturday night must-see TV when I was in high school in the 70s.

If I recall a'right, Don Kirshner's Rock Concert ran Alice Cooper's "Welcome To My Nightmare" complete.

Wow.
Now those were the days.....;)

[Tess1]

This may sound quaint to you, but I remember when the halftime show (not the commentary that is called a halftime show now days.) was really part of the enjoyment of watching a football game. It was FUN, I never missed it. Of course, there were great college bands marching, great entertainment,and all kinds of special effects. And yes, I did watch the game also. How does watching and expecting to see a great halftime show make one a fair weather fan? It's a game and a show. We pay them to entertain US.

Does anyone remember the Orange Bowl halftimes? Disney did great shows with lots of animation and light shows?

Does this mean I don't qualify as a real football fan? Certainly not.

[TheSarce]

Post of the Day material here in #39...

[antiRepublicrat]

Well I finally saw it. If it was on purpose, it was very well done to give MTV good plausible deniability.

Of course the rest was pretty poor taste cheesy anyway.

[Interesting Times]

Cloak of Anarchy -- Larry Niven

[GLDNGUN]

Who said you had to watch the halftime of the Super Bowl? Why do you have the right to not be offended?

Just what are you smoking up there in Humboldt? That "argument" isn't even worthy of the word. IT'S A SPORTING EVENT, not a crude rap and sex act. I have an expectation of decency at the break of such an event. Using your "argument" you could pornography in the middle of children's cartoons. After all, who said the kids "had" to watch? Why do parents have the right to not be offended?. There is a reason we have decency and obcenity laws.

I have watched almost every single football game this year, not once do i see a halftime. Unlike you fairweather fans, I am busy making food or drinks, using the facilities and otherwise preparing for the second half. I don't tune in to the Super Bowl to watch halftime and the commercials. There is ALWAYS an alternative to the halftime show. Many channels used to countdown to the 2nd half with a timer, so you wouldn't miss any football, and I am sure there are still channels that do that.

Fair weather fan? ROFL If you only knew. Football happens to be my business. I've forgotten more about football than you will ever know. Of course I'm not watching football games for ads and half-time entertainment. DUH! The Super Bowl, however, is a different story. The entire day is an event. It is indeed "Super Sunday". There have been very creative, entertaining ads in the past and some good half-time entertainment. It is the one time I do pay attention to these things. The same is true for millions and millions of other football fans. The Super Bowl is the most watched event on TV. Obviously there are many more people watching the game than just hard-core fans. There are many more women, children, and families watching. This is EVEN more of a reason to put appropriate programming on the air during the game. Your suggestion that everybody set a timer and watch something else is so stupid it's hardly worth commenting on. Using your logic, we don't have a right to not be offended during a football game, so what are we supposed to turn to? Do we have to watch the Weather Channel to avoid watching crude behavior? Here's a news flash for you. There are thousands of people at the game. What channel would you suggest they turn to? Or should daddy have to say to the rest of the family, "OK kids, it's halftime. Everybody shut their eyes for 20 minutes."

Since when is the halftime show a part of the game? You say you were tuned in to watch football, but you don't even mention how good the game was. Where was the backlash against NBC when they showed the women's soccer team strip down, on a tape-delayed broadcast? They made the concious decision to show that after they saw it happen. So, it's ok for NBC to show our women's soccer team celebrate without shirts in the Olympics, but a musician gives us a little teaser and its the end of the world. Convoluted logic if you ask me.

Since when is the halftime part of the game? Do you try to ask stupid questions on purpose or does that come naturally? If you're at the game, or watching it on TV, it IS part of the "game". The entire broadcast is the "game". NBC? I don't recall watching simulated sex acts, disgusting lyrics and a man ripping half of woman's shirt off so we can all see her silver studded nipple during that soccer game. Maybe I missed it. When did that happen? Surely, you aren't referring to when the girl pulled shirt off exposing her sports bra? You aren't seriously comparing the 2, right? Because those sports bras are rather modest as far as bras go. But I'm sure you're referring to something else, because nobody in their right mind would compare the 2.

[flashbunny]

Tune to free republic for the most in depth nipplegate coverage.

[humboldtconservative]

Did you hit pause on your TiVo and stare??? Everyone is acting like it was on the screen for an hour.

Were you just as shocked at Fox running ads for their soft-core porno show "skin"? They ran hundreds of those ads during the Baseball playoffs and World Series. Much more exposure than Ms. Jackson. (pun intended)

So, if you are offended. Boycott. I am mainly on this thread trying to defend the NFL. I don't feel the NFL has done anything wrong. They have a contract with CBS. They sold the rights to the game to CBS, told them what not to do, and CBS did it anyway. All I wanted was for people to direct their comments at CBS and MTV (VIACOM). There are a lot of people accusing the league of wrongdoing.

I think too much has been made about this, however, it is your right to think the downfall of the republic hinges on a one-second shot of half of a boob. To each his own.

[scholar]

Don vehemently denied that this act was anything but an accident/unintentional as he focused in on the grip of Justin peeling the covering off of Janet (I'm no bimbo) Jackson's breast... Justin can be seen clearly taking a firm grip on the covering of Miss Jackson's right breast and methodically removing the covering... wardrobe malfunction my arse!

Anyone who could believe that this was some "wardrobe malfunction" has to be dumber than a box of rocks. Why would he have pulled at her garment if he had not expected a result?? That would have looked pretty stupid-eh?

[solitas]

White trash and black filth. One cannot possibly think of words to accurately, comprehensively describe them. And CBS ought to be sued from here-to-high-heaven both for allowing the streaker and the two animals to be seen. Whereinhe|| was the delay? The morons couldn't possibly come up with a good enough excuse for NOT having someone sitting at "the button" in case something happened. I'd heard that in cases like this the FCC calculates the fine based upon the number of outlets showing the particular infraction. Does anyone know if this is true?