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To: nuconvert
"...there are serious discussions regarding modernizing the Koran."

I was just reading something about that on Daniel Pipe's site.

"AS we know, most muslims don't even read the Koran."

Because there are very many that CAN'T read, so they are taught from childhood by radical clerics via repetitive recitation of probably the same verses posted here. Wahabbism and Khomeinism calls itself "fundamentalism", but in reality, it promote an interpretation of Islam that has never quite existed prior to the 20th Century.

But all that is not even the point.

The point is that we have a very specific problem in a very specific area of the world, it's a geopolitical issue, not an ideological one.

These "fundamentalists" are fighting against the secularizing effects of Western civilization because it weakens their political power in the region, and they know that they can't win a "hot" war against the West, so they use religious extremism supported by illiteracy as a weapon, in an attempt at escalating the issue into a clash of religions.

I don't have a Muslim problem in my hands, I have a Syrian/Iranian/Saudi/Iraqi/Libyan/Somalian one.

91 posted on 02/01/2004 10:37:01 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"it's a geopolitical issue, not an ideological one."

It's both. You can't separate Islam from politics in those countries.

"Because there are very many that CAN'T read, so they are taught from childhood by radical clerics via repetitive recitation of probably the same verses posted here."

Thankfully, some are taught by moderate clerics, so not all become radicals. It's still a small percentage of muslims who are radicals.

"fundamentalists" are fighting against the secularizing effects of Western civilization because it weakens their political power in the region,"

Yes, that's exactly it. Every country that goes 'democratic' is a threat to their governing power; to their own personal wealth. It's more than politics and religion, it's personal, too.



121 posted on 02/02/2004 7:30:51 AM PST by nuconvert ("Why do you have to be a nonconformist like everybody else?")
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I don't have a Muslim problem in my hands, I have a Syrian/Iranian/Saudi/Iraqi/Libyan/Somalian one.

Some might note that all of the above are Moslim and realize you do have a Moslim problem. Some might even note that Nations are a western concept, and Empire is an Eastern one. You are in the position of saying I do not hava an American problem, I have a California, Texas, Washington, Tenn. ect..

It is the Koran that binds them together in the Jihad, and it is the "Holy War" that IS the problem. Therefore it is a Moslem problem, not an Indonesian, Philipino, Arab problem.

Now I have tried to describe where you missed the mark from both sides. Grasp it.

235 posted on 02/05/2004 5:04:31 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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