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Placer to open big nature area
Sacramento Bee ^ | January 30, 2004 | Art Campos

Posted on 01/31/2004 12:32:04 AM PST by farmfriend

Edited on 04/12/2004 6:04:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Placer County officials and environmentalists are celebrating the purchase of 961 acres of oak woodlands northeast of Lincoln, property that will be opened to the public as an undeveloped nature area.

The purchase is being hailed as the largest regional park acquisition in county history.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agenda21; conservancies; environment; government; openspace
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1 posted on 01/31/2004 12:32:05 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ApesForEvolution; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
2 posted on 01/31/2004 12:32:32 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
Placer County is turning into a strip mall/Indian casino hell. This park is a good thing.
3 posted on 01/31/2004 12:34:10 AM PST by ambrose (My God, it's full of stars!)
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To: ambrose
No it is not. You need to read Carry_Okie's book.
4 posted on 01/31/2004 12:35:11 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
property that will be opened to the public as an undeveloped nature area.

Thereby "open" only to Birkenstocked backpackers -- not to the infirm, the elderly, or the just-plain-Joe-and-Jane. The tired, shameful saga of making wildland accessible to only the elite continues ...

5 posted on 01/31/2004 12:39:20 AM PST by JennysCool
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To: farmfriend
People have go to have a place to go besides Wal-Mart and the local Indian casino.
6 posted on 01/31/2004 12:55:55 AM PST by ambrose (My God, it's full of stars!)
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To: farmfriend
People have got to have a place to go to besides Wal-Mart and the local Indian casino.
7 posted on 01/31/2004 12:56:18 AM PST by ambrose (My God, it's full of stars!)
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To: farmfriend
"We don't want people getting hurt."

Or panning for gold.

8 posted on 01/31/2004 1:34:16 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!!
9 posted on 01/31/2004 3:01:01 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: JennysCool; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave
You will be happy to know that the $1,000,000,000 (1 billion)of your tax money that went to PL for the "Headwaters Redwoods" is only open to a select few each week...
10 posted on 01/31/2004 6:23:08 AM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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To: ambrose; Roscoe; farmfriend
"People have got to have a place to go to besides Wal-Mart and the local Indian casino."

C'mon you guys... I din't know you lived that close to me, but if you do, you know there are PLENTY of Sierran places to go to get figuratively and literally "far away from the madding crowd!" (in the south Placer flat-lands)

As you know, those casiNOs and WallyMarts are nowhere near any real adventureland, or even anything rich in the way of farmland... so give it up and take a trip 30 to 40 minutes up the hill!!!

11 posted on 01/31/2004 7:40:06 AM PST by SierraWasp ("A wise man's heart is at his right hand, but a fool's heart is at his left." Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: tubebender; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; ambrose; Roscoe; Phil V.; marsh2; ScottinSacto; Hugin; ...
Dang it! I didn't ping you again!!!

I've taken a few jaunts up Garden Bar Road to an Iris farm at the end of it that belongs to fellow members of our Sierra Foothills Iris Society.

There are already signs of (gasp) human desecration all along that paved over horse trail in the way of Palo Alto style HOMES, complete with BIG IRON GATES to keep out the "riff-raff" that happen to venture that far out from the "exploding" Del Webb Sun City Lincoln development exclusively for the elderly in the flat-lands on the floor of the "BIG VALLEY!"

I'd be willing to bet that if you could talk to the heirs of this family in private, without them fearing being quoted in the media and thereby being demonized as societal outcasts... You'd get a much different story than this "for the good of all" study in socialistic land-grabbing!!!

The government employee who admits trespassing on this property in his youth would have (or his parents would) cheerfully sued this ranch owner and acquired the whole ranch in a settlement, had he been injured while trespassing. If not him, then, it would soon be someone in this litiguous day and age!!!

As everyone knows, but would rather not think about, (and that includes some of the most righteous conservatives) all the forces are aligned, (including the socially engineered tax code) to coerce these aging ranching familys to succumb to the emerging "People's Park" mentality that Ronald Reagan and S.I. Hyakawah had to deal with in Berekeley at the start of Ronnie's first term!!!

Just like the chanting/demonstrating Commonist Hippies of that time, now I hear discouraging words from some of my best conservative compatriots that this coercion scheme by leftist liberals has become a "redeeming social value!" Please don't go there people, or we'll lose another core value of constitutional conservatism inexorably to the Commonistas!!!

Klamath Basin, OR/CA farmers are not the only ones under pressure by so-called Conservancies and agressive Land Trusts working for the growth of government employment!!! If you guys "don't get it," then all property rights are just about washed up in this nation/state!!!

12 posted on 01/31/2004 8:24:12 AM PST by SierraWasp ("A wise man's heart is at his right hand, but a fool's heart is at his left." Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: tubebender; SierraWasp
We have one grubby rich uber liberal wine land owner who has about half the county in public trusts supposedly to prevent development. He avoids property taxes, inheritance taxes and probably has some incredible tax write off.

Don't hold your breath for any tours.
13 posted on 01/31/2004 8:24:17 AM PST by Grampa Dave (GW is driving every rat in America into a deeper insanity, 24/7/365!)
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To: Grampa Dave; tubebender; ambrose; Roscoe; Carry_Okie; farmfriend
"Don't hold your breath for any tours."

Oh! There'll be tours conducted by "dosents" televised by Huell Howser on his PBS show called "California's Gold!" He'll continue yellin into his microphone with his cameraman Louie in tow, "Oh my GOSH! Lookit THIS! Are there any protected wildlife in this GEORGEOUS PRESERVE?!?"

But he'll never have a program like PBS's "FRONTLINE's" "For the good of All!"

The "Sierra Business Council" started all this crappola with Willie Brown's former push-pollster/lobbyist/Bustamante's campaign consultant's partner, Jim Moore, forming a "Busybody Group" established by the Rafting/Friends of the River/RINO Republican Publisher of the Auburn Sentinal/Anti-Auburn Dam/Anti-Development/EnvironMental Saviors/NIMBY-NAZI/BANANA groups whose only solution is preservation/mummification of all economic progress in the Sierra Nevada "Range of Light" that they wish to close off with the whole range in a conservancy that Arnold has endorsed, according to them!!!

Now I'm off to search for that beautiful "Busybodies" thread based on Thomas Sowell's beautiful essay on said "Busybodies" that directly applies to this sickening situation!!!

14 posted on 01/31/2004 10:24:10 AM PST by SierraWasp ("A wise man's heart is at his right hand, but a fool's heart is at his left." Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: SierraWasp
This has to be the Paragraph rant of the year, even for you!

The "Sierra Business Council" started all this crappola with Willie Brown's former push-pollster/lobbyist/Bustamante's campaign consultant's partner, Jim Moore, forming a "Busybody Group" established by the Rafting/Friends of the River/RINO Republican Publisher of the Auburn Sentinal/Anti-Auburn Dam/Anti-Development/EnvironMental Saviors/NIMBY-NAZI/BANANA groups whose only solution is preservation/mummification of all economic progress in the Sierra Nevada "Range of Light" that they wish to close off with the whole range in a conservancy that Arnold has endorsed, according to them!!!

15 posted on 01/31/2004 10:26:04 AM PST by Grampa Dave (GW is driving every rat in America into a deeper insanity, 24/7/365!)
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To: Grampa Dave; budwiesest; Not gonna take it anymore
HERE'S THE LINK!!! "Digging In: Busybodies Part II

You laugh!!! There is a fantastic amount of experience-based truth in that diatribe!!!

You may recoil and dismiss it as "Paragraph rant of the year," but I know all the names/situations up close and very personal!!!

They will not be happy till we're living in a "Workers Paradise" and their stupid "Preserve" extends from the Cascades, through Paradise, CA, all the way to Death Valley!!!

You can bet the farm/ranch on that, good buddy!!!

16 posted on 01/31/2004 10:42:16 AM PST by SierraWasp ("A wise man's heart is at his right hand, but a fool's heart is at his left." Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: JennysCool
not to the infirm, the elderly, or the just-plain-Joe-and-Jane. The tired, shameful saga of making wildland accessible to only the elite continues ...

What exactly do you propose? - Moving sidewalks and escalators in wilderness areas?

17 posted on 01/31/2004 10:48:34 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ambrose
I agree with you.

I disagree with those who shout that there should be no public lands and I am utterly unconvinced that there is a victim in every land trust.
18 posted on 01/31/2004 10:53:15 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Not at all -- but check some of the other replies on this thread. Seldom are any of these projects meant for "everybody." My guess is that pretty quick you'll see a ban on roads and any form of motorized traffic in the area, and that will mean, essentially, locking out those who, for whatever reason, can't get around very well.
19 posted on 01/31/2004 11:00:35 AM PST by JennysCool
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To: ambrose
People have go to have a place to go besides Wal-Mart and the local Indian casino

Yes, but this is not the answer.

20 posted on 01/31/2004 11:12:20 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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