Does John Kerry have blood on his hands?

Left Illusions: An Intellectual Odyssey | 2003 | Glazov/Horowitz

[jstolarczyk]

When, where and how do I locate the statement to the Pope. My wife and daughter are catholic, I know many that are Dem's, I would love to see their faces when they read that!

[narby]

Every Vietnam War protester has blood on their hands.

And it's about damn time someone started re-visting the history of what what happened there when we left.

[bayourod]

"The blood of hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese, and tens of thousands of Americans, is on the hands of the anti-war activists who "

Wrong. The guilty are Walt Rostow, Robert McNamara and Robert Kennedy who advised JFK to get us into a war that the military opposed.

They knew less about how to use our military than Clinton.

[narby]

Wrong. The guilty are Walt Rostow, Robert McNamara and Robert Kennedy who advised JFK to get us into a war that the military opposed.

Wrong.

By the time the millions died in So. East Asia, those folks had been out of power for years.

The blood is on the hands of the anti-war, pro communist folks like Kerry, who convinced Hanoi they could invade So. Vietnam with no consequences.

All that should have been required to stop the killing purpetrated by No. Vietnam was to threaten to send the B-52's back like they flew in Dec. 72, that pursuaded them to sign the peace agreement in the first place.

Or even actually send them, if required.

But folks like Kerry wouldn't even let us re-supply So. Vietnam, which was allowed under the peace treaty, while No. Vietnam broke that same treaty.

Kerry and his ilk have blood on their hands. And I think the genuine history of what happened in So. East Asia will soon be re-told.

It's about damn time.

[hershey]

Your explanation is exactly right and Kerry's candidacy is a national disgrace.

[TaxRelief]

Kerry lied at an Irish gathering and said he was an Irish Catholic. Kerry has "recently discovered" he is jewish. No kidding.

[bayourod]

"threaten to send the B-52's back "

I lived on SAC bases during most of the war. No one opposed that war more than the B-52 crews. They thought that they were risking their lives for no valid purpose. Their bombs were not effective in that type war.

You probably think that we can solve the terrorist problem with B-52s also. You're still fighting WWII.

[narby]

I lived on SAC bases during most of the war. No one opposed that war more than the B-52 crews. They thought that they were risking their lives for no valid purpose. Their bombs were not effective in that type war. You probably think that we can solve the terrorist problem with B-52s also. You're still fighting WWII.

Buffs did the majority of the work in Afghanistan.

And you need to read the history of Linebacker II. It only took 12 days, and it ended the US involvement in Vietnam. Had we threatened Linebacker III, millions of people would still be alive to day. But the John Kerry types prevented it.

When you were living on the SAC base, I'm sure they thought what they were doing was a waste. Because it was. They were mostly bombing empty forests in So. Vietnam. Stupid.

But when they finally, for only 12 days, did real bombing. It worked. Hanoi signed on the line almost immediatly.

So, stop trying to refight Vietnam 65 to Nov. 72 and study up on the real history of the war.

You might look into the affects of Clinton's "bombing from 15k feet" in Bosnia. I don't think we had many troops on the ground there.

[MegaSilver]

Kerry lied at an Irish gathering and said he was an Irish Catholic. Kerry has "recently discovered" he is jewish. No kidding.

That's low. That's really, really low.

[sauropod]

good points.

[smith288]

He has botox in his head...

[BushisTheMan]

John F Kennedy starts the Vietnam war.

John F Kerry goes to war to fight (likely drafted?).

John F Kerry opposes the Viewnam war that John F Kennedy started.

Therefore....
Ted Kennedy should hate John F Kerry for opposing the war his brother John started. But instead John F Kerry and John F Kennedy's brother (Ted) are great Lib pals. Go figure

[Dolphy]

Thanks for the ping. What I know of Viet Nam is only through books and the wise words of others. There are certainly many lessons to be taken from that time and yet Kerry seems to have missed them. Instead he appears to have the same muddled thinking that informed the architects of failed plans.

[My Dog Likes Me]

You're right. With three purple hearts, I suspect the blood on his hands resulted from him grabbing at his various wounds a second or two after being hit by enemy fire.

[I got the rope]

With three purple hearts, I suspect the blood on his hands resulted from him grabbing at his various wounds a second or two after being hit by enemy fire.

Three purple hearts and a silver star in one tour? Wow. He sure was busy. I'm glad he wasn't toooo hurt to get that f_ing purple heart so he could move on to the next. If the story about his silver star is true...then Kerry is a f_ing joke IMHO. What kind of officer leaves his men in the field? As a former enlisted soldier I can tell you what kind he is....but I think I'll just let these posts speak for me.

From a previous thread:

He did not finish his tour of duty and used a loophole to leave - not very honorable. His behavior after his service cannot be severed from his time in Vietnam. Kerry is a disgrace - it appears that his service was not for his country or the defeat of communism, but for his political future - the same reason he is running for president.

25 posted on 01/30/2004 1:55:14 AM EST by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Kerry: Commie Symp)

Here's another:

I was in the same exact AO at the same time Kerry was ...and was in a Army platoon that used navy PBRs and Swift boats (during the rainy season) to ferry us into ambush patrol sites....we would patrol and set up night APs for three to four days...and then get extracted by boat during the rainy season and helo during the dry...

If Kerry got a Silver Star for merely hopping off the boat after his gunner prepped the area and killed and/or ran off the only VC and retrieved a launcher and a spare rocket...then something was VERY WRONG with the way the navy awarded medals to junior officers....in that unit - imo

Enlisted soldiers that recieved such high awards in our unit ...were often severely wounded or KIA as a result...regardless- actions that resulted in such high awards WERE ALWAYS directly against INTENSE enemy fire...

A couple of guys in my unit recieved silver stars and one a medal of honor...I can assure you the things they did to get such awards were way way beyond...the call of normal combat duty...
which in itself is harrowing...(even if you are just doing your job)....
Medals in Vietnam were given to those who deserved it- to those who didnt- and many guys who deserved medals didnt get them... imo

37 posted on 01/21/2004 4:46:32 PM EST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)

[My Dog Likes Me]

You forgot the Bronze Star (Valor) for turning his boat around and fishing that Green Beret out of the water (under fire).

Get a grip on this point - you can't fabricate Purple Hearts.

I don't much like Senator Kerry, either, but you cannot argue the point that swift boat crews had a really high mortality rate.

[wizardoz]

You're right. With three purple hearts, I suspect the blood on his hands resulted from him grabbing at his various wounds a second or two after being hit by enemy fire.

I guess that was before he threw his ribbons away and became a left wing nut, eh?

[KQQL]

Boston Herald: “Kerry raps Pope: Senator fuming over gay marriage order” Excerpt from coverage by Herald’s David R. Guarino: “Bluntly telling the Vatican to stay out of American politics, U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry yesterday said Pope John Paul II ‘crossed the line’ by instructing pols to block legalization of gay marriage. A fuming Kerry, taking on his own Catholic Church in the midst of a campaign for president, said Rome should have more respect for America's long-held separation of church and state. ‘It is important not to have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in this country,’ Kerry said. ‘President Kennedy drew that line very clearly in 1960 and I believe we need to stand up for that line today.’ The Democrat said political concerns are secondary to his moral outrage over Thursday's Vatican statement on gay marriage. ‘Our founding fathers separated church and state in America. It is an important separation,’ he said. ‘It is part of what makes America different and special, and we need to honor that as we go forward and I'm going to fight to do that.’ Catholics were stunned at the broadside from Kerry, saying he's sure to draw the ire of some 65 million

[KQQL]

U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry yesterday said Pope John Paul II ``crossed the line'' by instructing pols to block legalization of gay marriage.
``I believe in the church'' and ``care about it enormously'' but said church leaders went too far."
http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/kerr08022003.htm
Boston Herald 08/02/03:

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