[Mr. Silverback]

The Weekly Standard article is posted here.

[Mr. Silverback]

BreakPoint/Chuck Colson Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my BreakPoint Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

[King Black Robe]

BTTT

[Orangedog]

Well, our answer has always been that it would weaken marriage. Why? Because it would take away the unique status and benefits enjoyed by heterosexual couples granted by society, in society's own interest...

Benefits like a 50%+ divorce rate, jackals, er, I mean lawyers, alimony, custody fights, court battles, child support, ruined credit, losing half of what they worked for...all those benefits. If the screaming pillow-biters want the joke that marriage has become today, I say let them have it. They will regret it more than anyone else.

[RLK]

Scandanavia has problems. I read a study somewhere recentlently that said Scandanavian girls are becoming casually sexually active in their early to mid teens with a proportion of older men leaving a late teen and early 20s polulation of higly sexually experienced womem and male virgins. Marriage won't survive it.

[Lorianne]

But Mr. Kurtz also acknowledged in his article that the number of children living in two parent households is higher in Norway, than in the USA. The poverty rate is much lower and the teen conception rate is much lower as well.

In fact, whether both parents together support/care for/raise their children is more important than marriage per se.

[anniegetyourgun]

"The goal of the gay marriage movements in both Norway and Denmark . . . was not marriage but social approval for homosexuality."

The agenda - for all to see.

[Cacique]

ping

[Lorianne]

But Mr. Kurtz also acknowledged in his article that the number of children living in two parent households is higher in Norway, than in the USA. The poverty rate is much lower and the teen conception rate is much lower as well.

http://www.psu.edu/ur/2001/singleparentmath.html

[Scenic Sounds]

I think maybe it's time to make marriage more special. It's just much too easy to get married and I don't think people wind up taking it seriously enough.

I think lawyers should be as involved in the formation of a marriage as they are in its termination.

[Destructor]

Gay marriage is a joke. The typical "Gay marriage" lasts about as long as a snowball in Hell.

[Miles Vorkosigan]

I find it highly ironic that so many libertarians support gay this and gay that. They ought to look at the groups fighting against their pet issues, like gun rights. I would estimate that from 70 to 80% of the activist, anti-freedom Left are homosexuals. And yet libertarians continue to hand them rope with which they can hang free people.

These people are our enemies.

[tortoise]

She says "that Norwegian gay marriage was a sign of marriage's growing emptiness, not its strength."

There is some truth in this, and I think the causal arrow is definitely in the direction of a weakened institution of heterosexual marriage as it currently stands allowing homosexual marriage to be considered. Hetero marriage isn't being defended because a lot of people see little to defend in its current incarnation.