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California close to banning 'Redskins' mascots ...
ESPN. com news service | January 29, 2004 | Unknown

Posted on 01/30/2004 9:05:48 AM PST by BluH2o

SACRAMENTO -- In addressing an issue that professional sports teams such as the Washington Redskins have faced and resisted in recent years, the California State Assembly passed a bill Thursday that would require the state's middle and high schools to drop "Redskins" as their mascots if the bill becomes law.

The Assembly passed the bill 43-20 after a lengthy, passionate debate about Native American-related mascot names that are common throughout California and the nation.

If passed by the Senate and signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, the ban would begin in January 2006 and make California the first state to issue such a ban for all its public elementary, middle and high schools.

The move was a compromise to pass a bill that originally called to ban eight names common for sports teams and school spirit, including Indians, Braves, Chiefs, Apaches, Comanches, Papooses and Warriors.

Schools in Tulare, Gustine, Calaveras, Pine Valley, Colusa and Chowchilla use "Redskins" as school mascots.

State officials estimate the change will cost schools about $125,000.

"The California Department of Motor Vehicles won't issue this as a personal license plate because it's derogatory, yet we allow California high school students to wear this on their sweat shirts and uniforms," said Assemblywoman Jackie Goldberg, D-Los Angeles, who authored the bill.

Thursday's vote came more than a year Goldberg's first attempt to ban the names at public schools, community colleges and state universities failed in the Assembly.

Many Republicans voted against the measure, saying the state has more important business, including a cash crisis and a broken workers' compensation system.

Assemblyman Dave Cox, R-Fair Oaks, said the compromise represented the incremental beginning of eventually banning all Native American-related names.

"I was disappointed the Washington Redskins didn't make the playoffs," he said, regarding the National Football League team.

Cox also read Sacramento County street names with Native American names and suggested lawmakers would also try to ban such military terms as Apache helicopters and Tomahawk missiles.

But supporters said incremental change is necessary.

"Sometimes incremental change is all you can get," said Assemblyman Jerome Horton, D-Inglewood.

"I am sad we cannot go further today," said Goldberg. "But I am not willing to let another year go by that we would allow this state's public funds to keep a shameful name like Redskins on the books."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: busybodies; california; mascots; nfl; nicknames; redskins; schools; skins
Loopy, touchy feely left coast (CA) legislatures with much to much time on their hands ... com'on 'Ahnold' get a life.
1 posted on 01/30/2004 9:05:49 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o
What are they going to do about the "California Golden Bears"?
2 posted on 01/30/2004 9:08:10 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus
What are they going to do about the "California Golden Bears"?

There's no possibility of offending an ethnic group with this name...

3 posted on 01/30/2004 9:09:11 AM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: BluH2o
For the life of me, I can't understand why the "redskins" offends anyone. Seems they should be just as proud as having a mascot called the "vikings."
4 posted on 01/30/2004 9:09:29 AM PST by NTegraT
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To: BluH2o
From now on all Redskins teams will be renamed the Foreskins.....
5 posted on 01/30/2004 9:14:23 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Semper Paratus
BAN. BAN BAN


7 posted on 01/30/2004 9:18:59 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Baynative
Amen ... very well said!
8 posted on 01/30/2004 9:19:45 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o
Liberals are hurt by names but not by the prospect of a fiscal meltdown? Gee, go cry me a river. Our ultra-liberal State Legislature has its priorities in order and they include banning a politically incorrect expression but not getting our fiscal house in order. The Democrats here are nuts. Yeah, "Redskins" frightens the living daylights out of schoolkids and nosiree, we can't have that - though you gotta wonder how previous generations didn't grow up bigoted and anti Native American.
9 posted on 01/30/2004 9:21:01 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Our ultra-liberal State Legislature has its priorities in order and they include banning a politically incorrect expression but not getting our fiscal house in order. The Democrats here are nuts ...

The same can be said of virtually all democ"RATS" ... no matter where they populate this nation.

10 posted on 01/30/2004 9:30:06 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o
Replace all names "redskins" with "sheep"

or
(S)
give teams serial numbers.

go 94876340! 94876340 go go go!

(/s)
11 posted on 01/30/2004 9:44:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: BluH2o
We should eliminate all mascots that could possibly be construed as offensive. No more Native American mascots, no more offensive animal mascots (PETA finds them offensive), no more mascots named after specific groups of people (like Patriots, Packers, 49ers, etc.)

In fact, we should limit team mascot names to non-offensive meat-free food items. I think that names like Twinkies, Cream Puffs, and Soy Burgers should be mandatory.

12 posted on 01/30/2004 9:48:14 AM PST by mbynack (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: NTegraT
What about the San Diego State AZTECS (isn't that an injun tribe)?
13 posted on 01/30/2004 9:54:40 AM PST by kaktuskid
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To: BluH2o
"State officials estimate the change will cost schools about $125,000."
Heck, this should cost nothing more than the price of a couple pens so they can cross out the "skin" part of the name, and just display the "red___s", that would be preferable name for the California PC lawyers.
14 posted on 01/30/2004 10:01:45 AM PST by HRC
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To: BluH2o
including Indians, Braves, Chiefs, Apaches, Comanches, Papooses and Warriors.

Aren't Apaches, Comanches, and Papooses the proper names of the tribes? And Warriors? Can't that term apply to most ethnic groups outside the modern French? Same with "Braves?"

In Mt Pleasant, Central Michigan's team is called the Chippewas. The tribe near there is the Saginaw Chippewa tribe which is very active. Eastern Michigan(in liberal Ypsilanti, next to Ann Arbor) though changed their name from the Hurons to the Eagles because of white liberals whining.

Oh yeah, what are they going to do about my ethnic sports mascots? Notre Dame's leprechaun? Talk about a caricature.......:)

15 posted on 01/30/2004 10:05:15 AM PST by Dan from Michigan (Take me down to the paradise city where the grass is green and the girls are pretty. Take me Home)
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To: mbynack
Gotta ban the Lions and Tigers....whoops can't have the Pistons either. Cars are bad.....causes pollution

That leaves the Red Wings...whoops, isn't that wheel that the wing is attached to....car again...ban it!!!

And as for the food idea. Twinkies are bad for us, so they need to be banned too...

16 posted on 01/30/2004 10:08:40 AM PST by Dan from Michigan (Take me down to the paradise city where the grass is green and the girls are pretty. Take me Home)
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To: BluH2o
"I am sad we cannot go further today," said Goldberg. "But I am not willing to let another year go by that we would allow this state's public funds to keep a shameful name like Redskins on the books."

I guess Goldberg has no problem with our government referring to Caucasian people as white.

17 posted on 01/30/2004 10:09:28 AM PST by judgeandjury
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To: Dan from Michigan
".. . .and in tomorrow's SuperBowl 47, it's the Los Angeles Tofu versus the New York Bean Sprouts. . ."
18 posted on 01/30/2004 10:28:56 AM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: kaktuskid
What about the San Diego State AZTECS (isn't that an injun tribe)?

We were the Mark Keppel High Aztecs.

19 posted on 01/30/2004 10:43:04 AM PST by bruin66 (Guns don't kill people. Bullets do. Guns just make them go really fast.)
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