Medicare and Deficit Estimates Revised Upward

Fox News ^ | 1/29/04

[Ben Ficklin]

And that is exactly why they are using the worst case scenario in the budgeting process.

Look, if Bush gets reelected, he will attempt to reform SS. I will predict two things. First, there is going to be a whole lot of squealing at FR and second, this medicare prescription issue will be swallowed up in those reforms.

[azhenfud]

"Look, if Bush gets reelected, he will attempt to reform SS."

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but he's already committed to putting a Mexican tap on SSI, he's said an "undocumented" can stay here for 3 yrs, that one can bring five, of that six, two have two "anchor babies" each before the three years are up, that six multiplied over the 8-12 million already here will have a minimum one hundred forty-four million souls on SSI.

Yeah, Bush is planning a MAJOR overhaul of the SSI program - he's planning on it being hauled over the border.

I'd propose the "undocumented" be able to "contribute" to and draw from the Lawmakers' nifty retirement funds - if it's such a fantastic idea.

[Ben Ficklin]

".......There's a high probability that entitlement programs in 20 years will be financed by hispanics and will serve the whites".

[4CJ]

We have one now saying, "for our children, and our children's children."

I would consider that taxation without representation.

[azhenfud]

".......There's a high probability that entitlement programs in 20 years will be financed by hispanics and will serve the whites".

From your article, there's an even higher probability that there won't be any entitlement programs in 20 years to be financed by anyone. Certainly not if the "Bush for Illegaliens" plan succeeds.

Take only half the 144 million I had previously stated being provided public assistance of a meager $8-10 thousand per four annually, that's a potential $114-180 billion annually. The current estimates place them sponging about $40 billion annually from taxpayers already. Can we afford 3-5 times the current cost of their upkeep? Are their contributions to America THAT valuable?

[Ben Ficklin]

Let me give the "other side of the sword" in demographics.

There are published projections that by 2016 there will be no more Mexicans available to the US. It would be difficult for me to accept that 2016 date as absolute, but I would suspect that that there is an actual date when this will happen that would not be far off from the 2016 date.

The Mexican birth rate has fallen by 2/3 in the last 20 years. Economic opputunities will expand in Mexico.

Given that there is some point in the future when mexicans will decline the oppurtunity to relocate to the US, it would logically follow that there is also a point further in the future when mexicans in the US will begin to return to Mexico.

If you think that having too many mexicans in the US is a problem, just wait until there are not enough mexicans in the US.

[billbears]

The cost of this program, over the years, has been estimated in numerous ways and it is safe to say that no one knows for sure exactly what it will cost

Oh, they do, they just don't want to tell anyone for fear of not getting another big government program through. I have to hand it to the Republicans. They're enacting legislation that would put their 'all government, all the time' ancestors to shame

From $770 million in 1966, federal Medicaid expenditures increased to $2.7 billion (1970), $6.8 billion (1975), $14 billion (1980), $22.7 billion (1985), $41.1 billion (1990), and an estimated $89.2 billion in 1995.

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From $770 million to $89 billion in less than 30 years? At that rate based on the original cost of this current boondoggle, this will be the bill that finally breaks the bank

[azhenfud]

"The Mexican birth rate has fallen by 2/3 in the last 20 years. Economic opputunities will expand in Mexico."

Well, it dangblasted ought to. The "2/3"rd birth rate is made up in those Illegaliens that are here; those economic opportunities are the results from those jobs manufacturers took away from here.

[RJCogburn]

You must have missed my question to you, so I'll ask again....

"How could the administration make such a large error in the cost of the Medicare bill? What would you have said had the Clinton administration made such a large error?"

Thanks.

[sarcasm]

"How could the administration make such a large error in the cost of the Medicare bill?

Look HERE.

[chris1]

I can't help but feel totally and entirely betrayed by this President on the big domestic issues that make a huge difference. Little things that others point out on this board are little crumbs on the table that do not help to turn the tide. W has shown himself to be liberal in RINO clothing with no intentions whatsoever to improve the status quo. This immigration thing for me really was lynch pin. The Medicare program is just as bad, as waste fraud and abuse are already rampant and out on control.

[RJCogburn]

Wow. Thanks.

So the answer is...they lied.

The article is worth posting.

[sarcasm]

Go ahead.