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Democrats offer plan on aliens
The Washington Times ^ | 1/29/04 | Amy Fagan

Posted on 01/29/2004 11:19:51 AM PST by Cyropaedia

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:41:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

House Democrats yesterday proposed granting legal residency and the eventual option of U.S. citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants now working in the United States. Laying out their own principles for revamping the nation's immigration laws in response to what House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi called President Bush's "political ploy," Democrats went beyond Mr. Bush's plan for a temporary-worker program and called for a system of "earned legalization" for illegal aliens. At a Capitol Hill press conference, Democrats proposed allowing illegal immigrants who have worked in the United States for a yet-to-be-determined minimum period of time to stay here and be granted permanent legal residency, creating a "pathway" to eventual citizenship. "The president's proposal is a political ploy, and not the solid foundation on which we can build an improved immigration policy," said Mrs. Pelosi of California. "Democrats have a better way." Mrs. Pelosi said Mr. Bush's recently proposed plan doesn't create a meaningful way for illegal aliens to become U.S. residents or citizens; doesn't reduce the backlog of U.S. citizens' petitions on behalf of relatives who are here illegally; and doesn't help tens of thousands of teenage illegals attend college here and eventually be granted legal status. In addition to proposing measures to address those concerns, Democrats endorsed a temporary-worker program that would give foreigners the option to stay in the United States and eventually earn permanent legal status here. President Bush's plan, in contrast, would allow illegal aliens already here, as well as newcomers, to work in the United States legally for three years under a temporary-worker program. When their three-year permits expired, such immigrant workers would be required to return to their home countries. Once back in their home countries, they could apply for legal U.S. status through the existing system. Under the Bush plan, the three-year work permits could be extended in some cases, but not indefinitely. "The president wants to give [illegal aliens] a lot, but the Democrats want to give them the jackpot," said Steve Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies. Sen. John Cornyn, the Texas Republican sponsor of legislation that essentially mirrors Mr. Bush's proposal, said requiring workers to eventually return to their home country will reduce future illegal immigration by strengthening struggling foreign economies. "In my recent visit with government leaders in Mexico City, I was repeatedly told that they want their workers to come back, to return home with capital and skills," he said. "They need those small-business owners, those entrepreneurs to strengthen a weakened middle class." Mr. Cornyn's bill and Mr. Bush's proposal would provide incentives for immigrants to return home after their legal work period here expires. But Democrats like Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez, Illinois Democrat, said it would be unfair and unworkable to deport immigrants who have worked in the United States for many years. He praised Mr. Bush for opening the door to immigration changes, but said the government won't be able to enforce Mr. Bush's plan. "There is not the political will ... to conduct that massive deportation," he said. Mr. Camarota agreed. "At least the Democrats are realistic," he said, adding that illegal immigrants in the United States, "aren't going home now and they're not going to go home with President Bush's proposal." Democrats propose allowing foreign-born minors who are here illegally to stay in the United States, attend college and eventually earn legal status. Democrats said that "at minimum" they support a bill, already approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee, to allow states to grant in-state college tuition rates to illegal-alien students. That bill would also authorize federal officials to halt deportation of such students and allow the students to eventually become permanent U.S. residents. Mrs. Pelosi said if Mr. Bush were serious about improving the system, he would call for immediate action on the House counterpart to that Senate bill, as well as another House bill that would allow 500,000 illegal agricultural workers to become legal permanent residents. Democrats also propose enhanced family-reunification provisions. They seek reinstatement of a law that would allow illegal immigrants, sponsored by immediate family members who are U.S. citizens, to stay in the United States and apply for legal status, instead of being forced to return to their home countries before seeking legal admission. Mr. Bush tried to revive that law in the past, but it was "beaten down in the House," Mr. Camarota said, and the measure is not part of Mr. Bush's most recent proposal.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; doa; illegalimmigration
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To: rintense
You're right. Both proposals are beyond bad. But which one is worse? And if you absolutely had to choose between either of them, which one would you pick?

That's like asking "would like your city destroyed with a nuke of 20-megatons, or 50-megatons?"

Both plans are seriously bad news.

61 posted on 01/29/2004 4:36:17 PM PST by Capitalist Eric (Arrogance is permitted on my computer... but it will be graded for wits.)
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To: Pubbie
On the news.....not on paper....remember the unions??
62 posted on 01/29/2004 4:37:58 PM PST by international american ( Where is it??)
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To: AuntB
We're not only giving them in-state tuition in some states, the Gozuitta(sp?)foundation has given 4 ILLEGALS scholarships on GA. Pretty soon every state will be pushing full scholarships for these "disadvantaged".
63 posted on 01/29/2004 4:43:25 PM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: international american
Ohh -isn't DC a fascinating place!?

Just keep Governor RINOnegger from giving out DLs for Illegals and the country will be in good shape (Well at least the situation won't be made worse by stupid laws).
64 posted on 01/29/2004 4:44:12 PM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: Paulus Invictus
"What's so hard about that? "

Ask the man in the White House. I'm sure he has many compassionate reasonings why it can't be done. While you're talking to him, would you mention that he's losing votes by the minute?

65 posted on 01/29/2004 4:45:46 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch; Pubbie; Ohioan; Spiff; Gallegos; JackelopeBreeder; Joe Hadenuf; Mark Felton; sarcasm; ...
We must rebel in every way at our disposal, in order to expose the face of those that would overthrow our constitution; in support of an “agenda” that favors the tranzi(trans-national) global elite, in the guise of immigration “reform.” (that’s how it’s presented isn’t it?)

The Tranzis have been working a long time to do away with borders and national sovereignty.

They have shown us that they care nothing for our personal dominion by encouraging illegals -- by default -- to over run our neighborhoods, cities and parts of some states; and to move freely WITHIN America, to the point that they have all the rights and privileges of American citizens: sans actually being American citizens.

This process has the effect of devaluing and undermining the common bonds and traditions we all share as American citizens -- especially our constitutional heritage.

Thus, the idea that we share -- as Americans -- a distinct American culture, that binds us all together(whatever be our disparate origins)is under assault.

In one fell swoop they would do away with the lofty standard -- the privilege -- of American citizenship: that the founding fathers have bequeathed us.

As genuine American citizens we must wholeheartedly resist this attack on our person, our country, our constitution.

66 posted on 01/29/2004 4:47:16 PM PST by The American Man
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To: The American Man
Calm down - Sensenbrenner says he won't support the Bush Amnesty - it is DOA Dead!

Don't worry about it - the House Conservatives are in control of the House.
67 posted on 01/29/2004 4:49:33 PM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: freeangel
I think (another traitor) Hatch's Dream Bill does just that.
68 posted on 01/29/2004 4:49:48 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
MMM, is it called the NO ILLEGAL Left Behind Act?
69 posted on 01/29/2004 4:51:41 PM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Pubbie
California is lost, and I am moving in 2 months to Nevada!!
70 posted on 01/29/2004 4:52:36 PM PST by international american ( Where is it??)
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To: international american
Oh come on! - don't you love living in the center of the Hurricane!?

;)
71 posted on 01/29/2004 4:54:25 PM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: Pubbie
Then maybe it was a Carl Rove tactical
“gesture” (a possibility that I had thought of before) that was never expected to fly.

In any case: what you have told me is good news.
72 posted on 01/29/2004 5:04:05 PM PST by The American Man
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To: Cyropaedia
Kerry, Dean, Bush, Edwards

What a miserable little group.

74 posted on 01/29/2004 5:08:58 PM PST by dagnabbit (Tell Bush where to put his Amnesty and Mexico-Merger - - Vote Tancredo in Primary.)
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To: Gallegos
Yes, I’m very heartened that so many are responding to the call!
76 posted on 01/29/2004 5:11:15 PM PST by The American Man
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To: Pubbie
NO:)
77 posted on 01/29/2004 5:13:00 PM PST by international american ( Where is it??)
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To: The American Man
That's what I thought when I heard Bush's proposal.

Recent events during this month have only confirmed that suspicion IMO.
79 posted on 01/29/2004 5:25:55 PM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: narby
"The REAL way the future will be determined can be learned in college writing classes and video production classes."


Isn't that where Michael Moore studied?
80 posted on 01/29/2004 5:28:27 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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