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2nd ID Seeks to Curb Lap Dancing at Clubs
Stars and Stripes Pacific Edition ^ | 01/26/04 | Seth Robson

Posted on 01/29/2004 7:20:48 AM PST by Modernman

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To: NeonKnight
The worst time to be in the Armed Forces. We were a bunch of HS drop outs. Many were there because prosecutors gave them a choice between that and jail. But we did miraculous things with the tools we had

That is absolutely true. I don't know how you guys did it. I went in in '86 and saw some of the 'good ol days'. Clinton was awful. We were well trained and motivated, but the Wesley Clark-type leadership just sucked. We did miserable things with the tools we had--witness 911.

I honestly have a hard time being proud of my service. I left in '95 pretty much disgusted.

I can't believe I ended up enlisting in the guard. It was kind of cool that my reenlistment happens to fall on 9/11, tho.

161 posted on 01/29/2004 7:01:52 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: Old Sarge
Look 162 and no pics for you...jeesh. LOL.
162 posted on 01/29/2004 11:30:57 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
I'm amazed - to say nothing of mortified...
163 posted on 01/29/2004 11:38:22 PM PST by Old Sarge
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To: chookter
Probably a mis-communication. Korea had a curfew during Gulf War I for example, and they were also "locked" in place - no PCS in or out - but was still a whole lot better than living in the sandbox, and I'm pretty sure they were able to imbibe off duty.

As far as Germany, units that are slated to deploy probably have some alcohol restrictions just prior, but a blanket ban on alcohol across the board, in Germany, home of very fine beer and excellent wine? I gotta be skeptical.
164 posted on 01/30/2004 12:28:35 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: chookter
Way back in 75. For of us went and joined the Navy. In our junior year of HS. on delayed entry. and a year later one other of our classmates joined. And one of the “ smart kids” Going into the nukes as a O.
Coming in 76 It was more of a “war” time Navy. Vietnam was still somewhat winding down. Knowing and doing your job well got you ahead.
But could slowly see the change over to a peace time Navy. How well you could crease your uniform and brown nose got you ahead. And a lot more BS.
In 2001 we had our 25th HS reunion. I had not seen these guys since 76
One got out after 4 years. The nuke guy out after his min. term ( 8 years ?)
I did 10 ( coming very close to do the 20+ decision.) Every one else did 20-23 years. with one going thought the E ranks and becoming a Zero!
All made the decision to get out because they could no longer stand Billareys PC bs Military.

And now no beer, No steaming off.... Black “ French hats” BS... bullet shortages....
Since the 80s upper leadership has been declining. taking a nose dive in the 90s.
165 posted on 01/30/2004 1:13:14 AM PST by quietolong
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To: JackelopeBreeder
The "Deuce"! 332d before it became B Co. Maj Faust marched us 10 miles out (to an undisclosed location) for the changeover ceremony just to keep the Bde/Bn REMF dweebs from coming. I worked for Chief Hanger in the Motor Hole, wife had just re-classed from welder to cook (same job if you ask me, still burning $hit up).
166 posted on 01/30/2004 4:34:31 AM PST by Feckless
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To: JackelopeBreeder
You gotta get of that white rum, it'll rust yo' pipes, Mon. Get you some good Jamacian stuff. Meyers is the stuff if you can't get to the island for some homegrown. If you do you can forget about passing a p-test though.
167 posted on 01/30/2004 4:38:13 AM PST by Feckless
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To: KarlInOhio
Maybe he needs a lap dance.
168 posted on 01/30/2004 7:02:07 AM PST by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: xm177e2
You know the Greeks are very loyal. They never leave their friends behind.
169 posted on 01/30/2004 7:02:59 AM PST by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: af_vet_1981
I say if you are old enough to die for your country then you are old enough to have a soju and a lap dance.

Or if you were like me and at Clark then make that a Red Horse and a screw.

170 posted on 02/03/2004 1:35:49 PM PST by expatguy
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To: expatguy
I say if you are old enough to die for your country then you are old enough to have a soju and a lap dance. Or if you were like me and at Clark then make that a Red Horse and a screw.

Why should Americans be different from any other heathen culture ? Is it simply a restoration of the Roman Empire ?

171 posted on 02/03/2004 1:55:30 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Modernman
Since soldiers are soldiers 24/7, they are not at liberty to lower their professional bearing after hours.


Someone needs to slap some sense into this fool!!
remember, I&I is the light at the end of the tunnel.
Jack
172 posted on 02/03/2004 10:25:57 PM PST by btcusn
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To: quietolong
Way back in 75. For of us went and joined the Navy. In our junior year of HS. on delayed entry. and a year later one other of our classmates joined. And one of the “ smart kids” Going into the nukes as a O.
Coming in 76 It was more of a “war” time Navy. Vietnam was still somewhat winding down. Knowing and doing your job well got you ahead.
But could slowly see the change over to a peace time Navy. How well you could crease your uniform and brown nose got you ahead. And a lot more BS.
In 2001 we had our 25th HS reunion. I had not seen these guys since 76
One got out after 4 years. The nuke guy out after his min. term ( 8 years ?)
I did 10 ( coming very close to do the 20+ decision.) Every one else did 20-23 years. with one going thought the E ranks and becoming a Zero!
All made the decision to get out because they could no longer stand Billareys PC bs Military.

And now no beer, No steaming off.... Black “ French hats” BS... bullet shortages....
Since the 80s upper leadership has been declining. taking a nose dive in the 90s.

I served at the same time, 75-95 retired as BTC and yes it got worse every year in the 80's. Clinton was the last straw.
Jack
173 posted on 02/03/2004 10:40:33 PM PST by btcusn
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To: btcusn
Man... Must have had some brain cells die off. Can’t remember what BTC stands for?
174 posted on 02/04/2004 11:57:26 PM PST by quietolong
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To: quietolong
Man... Must have had some brain cells die off. Can’t remember what BTC stands for?
Happens to the best of us.
Boiler Tech Chief
Now Big Time Civillian
Jack
175 posted on 02/05/2004 9:25:34 PM PST by btcusn
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To: btcusn
Aggggr Thanks! You know what they say...Go with your first instinct. That’s what I thought.
Being a AO ( Aviation Ordinance ) We did not have any aircraft powered by Boilers;)
176 posted on 02/05/2004 10:03:49 PM PST by quietolong
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To: quietolong
Being a AO ( Aviation Ordinance ) We did not have any aircraft powered by Boilers;)
Maybe not, but your transportation and cats were, at least on the Midway they were.
My dad was a AO during the Korean war, stationed at Willow Grove, Pa.
177 posted on 02/06/2004 10:02:17 AM PST by btcusn
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To: btcusn
No. I was in P-3s my whole time. Close as I got to a Carrier was flying over the Midway at Subic when landing Cubie Point And stopping by to see if a friend from A school was onboard.
Still somewhat of a small world My Dad was a Radio operator on the FDR during Korea.
178 posted on 02/06/2004 4:34:35 PM PST by quietolong
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