[Vetvoice]

There were three drowned in a roll over of two Strykers into a caanal before the Brigade even commenced operations. That should be enough dead kids to point out to the Army that bolting on 5,200 pounds of "slat armor" ABOVE an already high center of gravity is suicide for the kids in them.

You are correct. Nobody lost their lives to the IED but one did lose a foot and we lost a $4 milion Stryker. Is that a win?

[Prodigal Son]

There were three drowned in a roll over of two Strykers into a caanal before the Brigade even commenced operations. That should be enough dead kids to point out to the Army that bolting on 5,200 pounds of "slat armor" ABOVE an already high center of gravity is suicide for the kids in them.

Well, to be fair, you could drown in any vehicle that went into the water- M113, Hummer, 5 ton truck, Bradley...

You are correct. Nobody lost their lives to the IED but one did lose a foot and we lost a $4 milion Stryker. Is that a win?

The thing is, we're not God. We can't see what might have happened to the same soldier who lost his foot had he been in a different vehicle. If he had been in a different vehicle and lost his life- not just his foot- then I say, yes, the fact that he was in a Stryker and only lost a foot as opposed to his life is a victory.

Also, they're not kids. I wasn't a kid when I served and I'm quite sure these men in Iraq wouldn't like being thought of as kids either. They're men. Grown up men.