Zot!! 9 Reasons Conservatives Should Vote For Bush

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[Conservative Coulter Fan]

The nine candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination line up for a debate in Detroit. From left: the Rev. Al Sharpton; U.S. Rep. Richard Gephardt, Mo., retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark; Sen. Joe Lieberman, Conn.; Sen. John Edwards, N.C.; U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Ohio; former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, former Illinois Sen. Carol Moseley Braun; and Sen. John Kerry, Mass

[VaBthang4]

I dont think the history actually reflects the ortiginal post.

I think it was created by the disavowed Fred Mertz and the tititle was: "33 Reasons Conservatives Shouldn't Vote For Bush"

[Coop]

where and when did she say she would be voting for Bush?

Oh, I don't think she's endorsed him or anyone else, though I honestly don't know. Just meant that over the years she has defended many (though not all) of his views.

[VRWCmember]

Never the less - the censorship of the original post and responses is WRONG....

First, it isn't censorship. This isn't the press and the owner of this site isn't the government. It is JimRob's private property and if he decides he doesn't want a Bush-bashing propaganda piece that might as well have been co-authored by DU and GoPatGo posted here he has that right. Second, the poster opted not to post in accordance with the posting guidelines. If he didn't bother to find out what type of material will get you escorted to the door before posting this garbage, that's his own fault. Third, there is plenty of debate and discussion around here, and if you think the PC police stifle debate here you are ignoring a lot. That doesn't mean that trolls are welcomed or that their nonsense is worthy of remaining in the open.

[ConservativeDude]

see my post 115....thoughts?

[Recovering_Democrat]

Your 3rd post on FR.
Lots of sleepers being smoked out by this thread.

How can you tell how many posts someone has done?? I'd love to know.

[GoGoMax]

That's not what occurred, as anyone who has spent "years" here at FR knows. The key word is T - R - O - L - L.

The functional definition seems to be: 'anyone who says something not maintream conservative.'

[Winston Smith Jr.]

Become an office holder, for one. Secondly, become involved in your county and state parties. Third, shift your dollars to organizations and/or people within the party that represent your view best.

Great ideas for those who have the discretionary time and dollars---but I don't.

Fourth, realize that politics is the art of the possible and that pure ideology is not really possible in any organization--not even a family of three always has pure unadulterated agreement all of the time.

If Reagan could win on a platform of abolishing the Department of Education, Dubya can do a lot better than $400 billion more for Medicare and coddling for illegal aliens.

Fifth, write (don't just email or call) your Senators and representatives in Congress. Sixth, write your state legislators who probably have more access to the feds than you do: when state legislators speak to them, they'll be saying the same thing about constituent attitudes that the feds see.

Good ideas---but IMO nothing speaks louder than a vote.

Seventh, pray for the people making decisions.

I plan to pray as if everything depended on Him and vote as if everything depended on me.

[NeoCaveman]

i think it would be interesting if the CP would allow candidates to get the nomination of both the GOP and the CP...sort of "I'm going to be part of a majority....but I am also a hard line conservative." Best of both?

I'd vote that way in a heart beat. I don't think it would ever happen.

[GoGoMax]

Your 3rd post on FR.

Was this supposed to make me feel bad, discredit me or something?

Is talking/posting allot make a person smarter or something?

[hocndoc]

There was no reason to zot this article. I believe in the 11th Commandment for Republicans, but we could have debated without the zot, don't you think?

The aftermath of September 11, 2001 should be enough for anyone who believes in freedom. CCF's points can be and deserve to be debated.

We small government Republicans must step up to guide our Party's leaders. We can't do that by working with the opposition to defeat them. The very fact that each of the big media organizations has been on a "Bush loses Conservative faction" feeding frenzy should be enough to make us suspicious of not only their motives, but the motive of any so-called conservatives who echo or reinforce their points.

Each cut in increases in spending is met by the Left with cries of cuts in funding. Each time a planned spending program passes (even with cuts in increased funding, so that less is spent than originally planned) and/or redirection of those funds into more appropriate programs and agendas, we hear objections from both factions.

The criticism that the "Bush Administration" or President Bush himself is spending ignores the fact that the more appropriate focus would be the House and the Senate.


If we haven't learned in the last 12 years that votes for 3rd party candidates are votes against our candidate, I don't know when we will. But, perhaps looking at the Newsweek poll showing that Kerry would win over Bush if the vote were today, should bring some awareness
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=4049942&p1=0


If you want higher taxes, more spending and pro-abortion and anti-family judges, vote against President Bush.

[Jim Robinson]

Here you go:

The original post:

Reason One: President Bush spends more than liberal presidents and he has earned the title of the largest spender in American History serving as the worst possible example of what one might call a big spending liberal.
Reason Two: President Bush has expanded the size and scope of the Federal Government having created some 47 new governmental agencies through executive order and he has proposed over 100 government programs, which certainly indicates he wants and has delivered bigger government.

Reason Three: President Bush has given us the largest historical expansion of Medicare and the Welfare State itself with his communistic prescription drug coverage plan, which he priced at $400 billion and will result in massive tax increases.

Reason Four: President Bush has given us a massive budget deficit that is already in excess of $450 billion, which is the largest in history and certainly warrants the title of most fiscally irresponsible.

Reason Five: President Bush let one of the most radically left wing senators in the history of the Senate, Ted Kennedy, co-author his education bill along with consultation with Rep. George Miller (described as being to the left of Kennedy!), which resulted in the largest increase in federal education spending in history (the Department of Education is another unconstitutional department republicans wanted to abolish ten years ago) and gives the Federal Government control over curriculum.

Reason Six: President Bush said he supported Clinton’s so-called Assault Weapon Ban and said he supported reauthorization of the law earning him praise from notoriously liberal senators Feinstein and Schumer while dispelling any claim he is “pro-gun.”

Reason Seven: President Bush flip-flopped on federal money for overseas abortion with a very anti-conservative bid to send $15 billion to Africa as “AIDS relief,” which will go to groups that promote and provide abortions dispelling his pro-life, conservative label.

Reason Eight: President Bush has appointed more openly homosexual individuals to serve in his administration than Clinton or any other president in history.

Reason Nine: President Bush wants to give millions of illegal immigrants amnesty and make the U.S. citizens while at the same time he says he is not rewarding lawbreakers and continues to nothing to protect the border.

Reason Ten: President Bush signed John McCain’s anti-speech Campaign Finance Bill into law and even admitted it was unconstitutional, but more importantly he said during the campaign that he wouldn’t sign this legislation.

Reason Eleven: President Bush has increased the size of the Federal Workforce with over one million new workers being added, which serves as another example of bigger government under Bush.

Reason Twelve: President Bush did what even Clinton failed to do by granting federal funds for the grisly stem-cell research, which subsidizes research on aborted babies (Bill Frist profits from this) once again dispelling his pro-life label.

Reason Thirteen: President Bush now supports and defends Clinton’s unconstitutional executive order swallowing up millions of acres of Western land by declaring it a national monument even though he called the policy “willy-nilly” during the campaign and promised to nullify it if elected.

Reason Fourteen: President Bush signed the Farm Bill, which costs are estimated at around $200 billion giving massive subsidies, results in higher food costs, and results in tax increases ultimately.

Reason Fifteen: President Bush advanced the homosexual agenda after he signed legislation sponsored by the openly homosexual Republican Congressman Jim Kolbe of Arizona (the Bush campaign demanded he be given a prominent speaking role at the 2000 RNC Convention) that gives homosexual “couples” health benefits, endorses homosexual “marriage,” and gave them adoption rights in the District of Columbia.

Reason Sixteen: President Bush has been destroying civil liberties following the 9/11 terrorist attack holding American citizens without cause or trial, conducting search and seizures without warrants, conducting investigations without any probable cause, and can even revoke citizenship based on loosely defined laws in the Patriot Act.

Reason Seventeen: President Bush has implemented Clinton’s brainchild, the Department of Homeland Security, that establishes a permanent national police force through the mergence of 22 federal police and emergency agencies, screening tools to “predict” human behavior, implement a national I.D. card, and create a domestic informant program whereby millions of Americans spy on their fellow citizens for the Federal Government, monitor Internet activity, and in effect creates a police state.

Reason Eighteen: President Bush, following the 9/11 attack, promptly signed legislation that in effect required the Federal Government to take over airline security and shut the doors on another private sector while at the same time he opposed pilots carrying a gun in the cockpit.

Reason Nineteen: President Bush reportedly supports a move by the Mexican Government that would add tens of thousands of Mexican citizens to the Social Security roster and send hundreds of millions of dollars to Mexico.

Reason Twenty: President Bush rebuked Lt. Gen. William Boykin while speaking to a Muslim audience in Indonesia saying he didn’t reflect his opinion or what the Government thinks for saying America is a Christian Nation and pointing out that is why many Muslim terrorists hate us.

Reason Twenty-one: President Bush and his James Carville, Karl Rove, pushed successfully for Bill Frist to be the Republican Majority Leader knowing full well that he ran as an anti-life candidate that publicly supports abortion, profits from a family owned chain of hospitals that perform abortions, and supports illegal amnesty along with gun control.

Reason Twenty-two: President Bush chose Elaine Chao to head the Department of Labor (the unconstitutional department that republicans wanted to abolish a decade ago and also its spending has increased a whopping 65% under Bush) even though she and her father had strong ties to China's former president Jiang Zemin, she called the Cox Report on Chinese espionage “racist,” she said the prosecution of John Huang was racially motivated, and has other ties to China.

Reason Twenty-Three: President Bush’s chief counsel is Alberto Gonzales who was his chief counsel while he was Governor of Texas and was his nominee to the Texas Supreme Court, which is where he cast a tie-breaking vote against a parental notification requirement for a minor to get an abortion, and now he screens Bush’s judicial nominees, and he’s rumored to be one of Bush’s top picks for the U.S. Supreme Court (is Gonzales Spanish for Souter?).

Reason Twenty-Four: President Bush has failed to undo Clinton’s executive order permitting homosexuals into the military, after 9/11 he ordered the military to quit expelling homosexuals, and he authorized the U.S. Army to distribute a comic drafted by the Clinton Administration entitled, “Dignity and Respect: A Training Guide on Homosexual Conduct Policy.”

Reason Twenty-Five: President Bush threatens to undermine America’s security by unilaterally disarming 75% of our strategic nuclear deterrent including bombers, warheads, missiles, and submarines.

Reason Twenty-Six: President Bush has increased federal subsidies for the National Endowment for the Arts, the Legal Services Corporation, Planned Parenthood, and the homosexual movement.

Reason Twenty-Seven: President Bush said during the his presidential campaign that he was opposed to nation building, but this dishonesty couldn’t be more apparent giving that he is nation building in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Reason Twenty-Eight: President Bush has maintained and increased U.S. aid to China (Bush has increased U.S. foreign aid outlays overall by more than $10 billion) and passed a trade bill with China that was heavily supported by pro-China lobbyist and Chao patron Maurice "Hank" Greenberg who threatened to cut funding to the Heritage Foundation over position papers critical of China, and also Bush signed an executive order permitting more advanced supercomputers (than those permitted by Clinton to be sold to China) to be sold to China.

Reason Twenty-Nine: President Bush taking cues from one of his chief political advisors, Mary Matalin, wife of Democrat strategist James Carville, and a founder of the pro-homosexual Republican Unity Coalition, has attempted to remove Republican Party Platforms against homosexuals in the military, homosexual “marriage,” the first republican administration in history to hold strategy sessions with homosexuals, and kept in place a Clinton executive order prohibiting discrimination against sodomites in the federal workforce.

Reason Thirty: President Bush continues in Clinton’s footsteps by trying to create a Palestinian State, rewarding decades of unrelenting terrorism and hatred towards Israel, and dishonestly stating such a goal has always been American Foreign Policy even though his own father stated the exact opposite as President.

Reason Thirty-one: President Bush ordered the Department of Justice not to investigate the criminal conduct of former President Clinton and his Administration and he ordered them not to turn evidence of criminal conduct already gathered.

Reason Thirty-two: President Bush supported a Clinton-era plan to disarm the U.S. Army of tanks, tracked vehicles, and much of its artillery while placing American Soldiers under foreign command as Clinton did and keeping in place an awful executive order of Clinton’s that puts women on the frontlines in combat.

Reason Thirty-three: President Bush has supported gun rules that restrict clips to ten rounds, he has increased the ATF’s budget, pledged millions of dollars and the hiring of prosecutors to enforce unconstitutional gun control laws, and won’t allow U.S. courts to even consider restoring (restoring a constitutional right?) the lost second amendment right to own a gun lost under the GCA 68 provision, which says people convicted of a felony and certain misdemeanors like smuggling bibles into communist countries says your gun rights are forfeited.

“The time has come for conservatives to abandon the Republican Party and to start supporting principled candidates from parties such as the Constitution Party, because the lesser of two evils is no longer lesser.” -Pastor Chuck Baldwin

[Indie]

DMCA -- Since Jan 19, 2004 Just following protocol :)

BWA HA HAHAH!!

[Winston Smith Jr.]

i would reckon that they don't encourage that. but the sort of absolutist stand is why people say credibly that the CP is the same as voting D.

WHAT "absolutist stand"? The one you only "reckon" they take?!

[spodefly]

How can you tell how many posts someone has done?? I'd love to know.

Click on their username, then click on the 'In Forum' link. If they have tons of posts it is hard to tell exactly how many posts they have, but if they only have 3, it is pretty easy.

[Indie]

No, a vote for the Constitution Party is a vote for the Constitution Party.

I agree.
But, in reality, since this fine (really!) party can not garner the support to win, it will result in a DemocRat commie winning, which will in my estimate, destroy this nation state and with it, every one of us.

If I knew they had the support, I'd vote for them..but they don't. Fact.

[hocndoc]

Good post and an article worth bookmarking, thank you.

Can't conservatives hear Hillary decrying the death of the New Deal at the hands of President Bush? Don't they read the reports of the polls that show Kerry would have the popular vote if the election were held today or the reports about the variations possible due to our Electoral College system of Presidential elections? And, don't they see the results of "any candidate but Bush?"

[Recovering_Democrat]

Thanks!

[KantianBurke]

First, it isn't censorship. This isn't the press and the owner of this site isn't the government. It is JimRob's private property and if he decides he doesn't want a Bush-bashing propaganda piece that might as well have been co-authored by DU and GoPatGo posted here he has that right. Second, the poster opted not to post in accordance with the posting guidelines. If he didn't bother to find out what type of material will get you escorted to the door before posting this garbage, that's his own fault. Third, there is plenty of debate and discussion around here, and if you think the PC police stifle debate here you are ignoring a lot. That doesn't mean that trolls are welcomed or that their nonsense is worthy of remaining in the open.

Good points bump. Still think the Mods should've let putupon stay though.

[Indie]

.....therefore...

BUSH !!!

[Coop]

The functional definition seems to be: 'anyone who says something not maintream conservative.'

It would take me about ten seconds to find 2 or 3 posters who fit this category who have NOT been censored. You sound sillier all the time. I can now understand why you don't post too much.