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New European Studies Show Homosexual Marriage Harms Marriage in General
Culture of Life Foundation ^ | 1/27/04 | Culture of Life Foundation

Posted on 01/27/2004 1:05:48 PM PST by Polycarp IV

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To: Motherbear
Where in the constitution does it give you the right to change the definition of marriage?

At the risk of sounding like I'm validating anything about your hasty diatribe (which I most certainly won't do), the Constiution is not an inclusive list of things the government will deign to permit us to do. It is a proscription against things the government cannot do.

We don't live by the rules of oppressive societies where the rule of law is "Citizens have the right to do only what is allowed by the state".

81 posted on 01/28/2004 9:27:57 AM PST by tdadams
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To: tdadams
Good story about your friends.

I enjoyed the article, and my wife enjoyed it immensely, because I fancy myself as something of a wine snob. My wife has threatened to test this on me sometime by making a switch and see if I catch it but so far she hasn't done so.

The really fascinating part to me, though, was that the perception aspect of it was true of wine tasting, which is something I would have thought could be discerned more objectively than many of the abstract and complex issues discussed on FR.

"We all look for validation to what we already believe. "
I agree, but many people believe they truly are objective.

"My issue is this - that's not the way science is supposed to work."
I agree, the study showed correlation, not causation, but it was presented as causation. There are too many societal issues going on here to make an objective announcement of cause-and-effect, but we all have our ideas on it. Personally I believe the article to state the truth, but that's my opinion, which is pretty much all that any of us have on this subject.
82 posted on 01/28/2004 9:39:45 AM PST by webstersII
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To: CAtholic Family Association
The goal of the gay marriage movements in both Norway and Denmark, say Halvorsen and Bech, was not marriage but social approval for homosexuality.

BINGO ! And it's FORCED social approval.

83 posted on 01/28/2004 9:45:37 AM PST by jimt
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To: webstersII
the study showed correlation, not causation, but it was presented as causation.

Exactly, and that is what I took issue with. But many people here don't want to hear rationality, they want to get applause from the cheering section.

I can show a correlation between a high income and cigar smoking, but it doesn't mean if I start smoking cigars my income will go up.

84 posted on 01/28/2004 10:05:13 AM PST by tdadams
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To: tdadams
"I can show a correlation between a high income and cigar smoking, but it doesn't mean if I start smoking cigars my income will go up."

Oh, would that it were so!!
85 posted on 01/28/2004 3:26:56 PM PST by webstersII
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To: Maceman
Sweden--poorer than Mississippi. I like it!!
87 posted on 02/23/2004 1:38:48 AM PST by Catmom
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To: CAtholic Family Association
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88 posted on 02/23/2004 2:12:19 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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