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Oh, I see you need a good Fisking!

Strawman?....You say: And what is the answer of the Right when the times call for Churchillian resolution?

You know as well as I do that what I say is true. You simply don't want to admit that your priorities are seriously out of whack. I have heard more Conservatives on this board go on about No Child or the Farm Bill than I care to remember. Then they swear that they won't vote for Bush ever again. In the middle of a freaking war, with the highest of stakes.

There is no excuse for that intellectual asshattery. None.

Here's a choice one...

How freaking pathetic. Next thing I know the Right will declare jihad over the fact that the Bureau of Weights and Measures is overfunded.
You are obviously showing where you think immigration ranks as a national problem.

Horsesh#t. Saying so does not make it so. You cannot draw that conclusion from that statement, so you created a logical fallacy to suit your own ends. The fact that the fallacy doesn't appear to have been apparent to you speaks volumes. Immigration is important. It is not to be left to the nativist crowd, who have lost every election they've tried to contest in the history of this country.

The difference is that Bush has proposed something while Democrats have run to his left and insisted on amnesty
It is an amnesty that Bush has proposed.

No, it is not. It is a guestworker program with the possibility of citizenship for those who want to apply. Citizenship is supposed to be a good thing. No one else is offering any alternatives, not even ol' Round Up The Wetbacks Tancredo.

This is the part I love the most:

The Mexican gardener?...........or did you mean to say 15 million foreign nationals thumbing their nose at American law, forging documents, committing crimes, etc?

Jesus, are you saying that all the illegals are forging documents, robbing banks, rustling women and raping cattle? Or just the ones in your neighborhood.

Try painting with a smaller broad brush next time, okay?

Meanwhile, back at Conspiracy Central:

Never saw a black helicopter; however, I do see a major disaster in the making.

Yeah, all those spanish speaking brown people who just happen to be Christian.

As opposed to Muslim or jihadi.

BTW, I'm still looking for that Mexican ruling class you talked about. I want to lobby for all the taco concessions.

And now, the piece de resistance.

Hillary will be President in 2008, and this will give them all the voters she'll need.
Only a fool thinks they are going to register Republican. Although I suppose you can engage in a Great American Giveaway to win their affections. More programs, more entitlements, whatever it takes.
Like I said before, we'll see. Bookmarking page.

Hillary is always a good indicator of how pessimistic some conservatives are. They are always willing to roll over and die at the very mention of her name. You're not even willing to fight for the Hispanic vote, even though it is a socially conservative voting bloc.

You think you can fight Hillary and her crowd by joining the Constitution Party or the Weed Inhalers over at the Libertarian table? Go right ahead. Neither of those parties are worth a continental damn, nor could they win an election for dogcatcher in a town run by cats.

Pathetic. You people aren't even willing to fight. Why should other conservatives listen to you folks if all you do is pick up your ball and go home? You're not even getting in the game.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

You know as well as I do that what I say is true. You simply don't want to admit that your priorities are seriously out of whack.

I know what my priorities are. They go something like America first.

I have a hint for you:

Major Kusanagi won't be coming to the rescue when it all goes down.

I have heard more Conservatives on this board go on about No Child or the Farm Bill than I care to remember. Then they swear that they won't vote for Bush ever again. In the middle of a freaking war, with the highest of stakes.

There is no excuse for that intellectual asshattery. None.

...I'm beginning to hear more than I care to about that "great [MURDEROUS] religion", Islam. There is no excuse for that intellectual asshattery. Especially in these times.

Horsesh#t. Saying so does not make it so. You cannot draw that conclusion from that statement, so you created a logical fallacy to suit your own ends.

It's obvious what you were trying to accomplish to anyone reading this thread, so don't even try to run it.

No, it is not. It is a guestworker program with the possibility of citizenship for those who want to apply.

No, it's a amnesty program with a guaranteed citizenship, jump ahead of all people who tried to do it legally. It seems all those who appear to respect our laws are about to be, as you would put it, f**ked.

Jesus, are you saying that all the illegals are forging documents, robbing banks, rustling women and raping cattle? Or just the ones in your neighborhood.

They are here illegally, what part of "lawbreaking " don't you get. As to the examples, why don't you ask some of our friends in California, Arizona, Nevada, etc. what they think?

Yeah, all those spanish speaking brown people who just happen to be Christian.

So is Jesse Jackson.

BTW, I'm still looking for that Mexican ruling class you talked about. I want to lobby for all the taco concessions.

Uh, maybe you've been sleeping for the last thirty years Rip Van Winkle, but see terms such as "political correctness", and "hate crime". You are already a second class citizen, Sleepy.

Hillary is always a good indicator of how pessimistic some conservatives are. They are always willing to roll over and die at the very mention of her name. You're not even willing to fight for the Hispanic vote, even though it is a socially conservative voting bloc.

Hillary and Bill spend the better part of a decade trying to import as many foreigners as they could, and why do you think that was? Because they would pull the "R" lever at the voting booth?

...and now, we stand on the brink of helping them with this plan, and you want me to cheer?

You think you can fight Hillary and her crowd by joining the Constitution Party or the Weed Inhalers over at the Libertarian table? Go right ahead. Neither of those parties are worth a continental damn, nor could they win an election for dogcatcher in a town run by cats.

I'll consider a new, as of yet unformed party. In other words, I'll probably stay home.

Pathetic. You people aren't even willing to fight.

Coming from a guy who doesn't even want to enforce his own country's borders. A guy who is surrendering because it seems politically expedient.

This is not Churchillian resoluteness. This is Nevillian catering to the demands of Vincente Fox. A guy not one tenth as threatening as Hitler. Yet.