I'm all for it, but it hasn't been very effective to date. Perhaps some new ideas are warranted...such as REGISTERING all of the illegals.
You seem to be against registering them all. Why is that?
I would if it entailed the law telling a criminal, "you did the crime, you'll do no time, and we'll even drop you off in front of the bank you robbed last month."
Bush's plan, while much maligned
Much maligned.....and I thought it was only the 'black helicopter crowd that felt that way.
Illegal aliens are already here, but they aren't currently registered with our INS and law enforcement.
INS and law enforcement?.........we'll go with the eight million you cite.......what a bang up, stellar job they have done so far. You'll have to forgive me, but INS and enforcement is part of the problem.
On the other hand, trying to come up with the resources required to locate, track down, and detain 8 million crooks who are all anonymous and who are all on the lam (as are these illegal aliens) would be quite an undertaking (and rounding them up into internment camps would make earlier European WW2 concentration camp efforts seem small in both contrast and in terms of bad publicity).
Well, we won't be implementing some "final solution" for illegal immigrants.
Bad publicity?......oh, right. The United Nations and France won't like us defending our borders. God forbid that happens.
But with Bush's plea bargain, illegals can pay their fine, register, and then they get a blue card and the right to work here for 3 years. It's a deal.
It's deal alright. For Vincente Fox and Hillary Clinton. Yeah, they'll go home after 3 years just like they do now. (there's no place like home, there's no place like home)
Of course, they have to deport themselves at the end of that period in order to apply for more time here...and Bush's plan gives them the incentive to do that
Yeah, sure Southack...if they don't go, why, we'll impose another amnesty on them.
Sure, there might be better ways to deal with illegals, but this plan isn't all bad...
No, it's not all bad..........it's downright terrible.
Of course, we *could* go door to door with our military in efforts that would make the SS of 1944 Germany look civilized, and we could round up all 8 million illegals who are already here...but I urge you to consider not only the financial cost, but also the bad publicity of setting up temporary internment camps for housing 8 million illegal aliens (compared to say, 6 million WW2 Jews in Europe).
Again, quit the Nazi Germany references. We're not talking about liquidating them....and I don't care about "publicity". Publicity as far as who is concerned Southack?
In that light perhaps you can began to see that President Bush's plan to encourage 8 million illegal aliens to accept his plea bargain is a rather good deal for us all.
No thanks.
The alternative is to continue the current status quo of having them all unregistered, a position that I find difficult to support, much less pay for.
The alternative is to defend our sovereign borders, like every other country on the face of the earth is willing to do.
I'm all for it, but it hasn't been very effective to date. Perhaps some new ideas are warranted...such as REGISTERING all of the illegals.
You seem to be against registering them all. Why is that?
I'm not talking about liquidating illegals, either.
But if you round up 8 million illegals by force of arms, you *are* going to draw comparisons, at least in terms of scope, to the NAZI efforts of WW2 that rounded up 6 million Jews. That's simply the closest (in size and scope) mass roundup, and comparisons are inevitable, especially by the liberal news media here and abroad.
Indeed. Perhaps that suggests that the brute force roundup tactics of the past aren't the ideal solution.
Who knows, maybe what we need is a *new* idea, such as somehow enticing most or all of the 8 million illegals who are already here to Register themselves voluntarily.
You know, cut them a deal that they won't refuse...a plea bargain, for instance...