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Navy relieves submarine commander of duties [USS Jimmy Carter]
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Posted on 01/27/2004 8:11:02 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Navy relieves submarine commander of duties Tuesday January 27, 2004 GROTON, Conn. (AP) The Navy has relieved a submarine commander of his duties, saying it lost confidence in his abilities to command.

Cmdr. David J. Bartholomew Jr. assumed command of the Jimmy Carter about a year ago. The Seawolf-class submarine is still under construction at Electric Boat in Groton.

Bartholomew would have overseen the submarine's joining the fleet in 2005.

The Navy released few details about the incident.

Commanders are typically dismissed when the ``command climate'' of a ship is threatened, said Lt. Philip R. Rosi, a Navy spokesman.

``The decisions made by Cmdr. Bartholomew led to, or could have led to, the degradation of good order and discipline,'' Rosi said.

Bartholomew was temporarily reassigned to the staff of Submarine Group Two at the base, pending further disciplinary or administrative action, Rosi said.

Bartholomew, a native of Medfield, Mass., is a 1983 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy. He made two demanding Mediterranean deployments as captain of the USS Annapolis.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: submarine; usn; ussjimmycarter
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To: leadpenny
The Navy has a new zero-tolerance policy on Adultery for officers. Get caught, you are gone.
61 posted on 01/27/2004 9:06:05 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Very likely.

Sure hope that's it.

Though I also hope Rummy is NOT putting globalists in their places.

We need SOME nukes not under THEIR control!
62 posted on 01/27/2004 9:06:50 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Johnny_Cipher
That was my thought--that he got in trouble with his Chiefs.
63 posted on 01/27/2004 9:07:51 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Johnny_Cipher
Bommers at first were named after famous Americans & some foreigners, example USS Puluski, Lafayette....USS Lincoln. The with the Ohio class they were named after states.
64 posted on 01/27/2004 9:08:25 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: gridlock
So the three subs in the class are the USS Seawolf, the USS Connecticut, and the USS Jimmy Carter? What naming convention are they using for this class? Whatever strikes Congress as a good idea the day the funding is appropriated?

Pretty much, they couldn't decide who or what they wanted to pay tribute to more. They originally named it the lead ship "Seawolf" and gave it hull number SSN-21 in rcognition that it would be the Navy's 21st Century attack boat. Then, since the Ohio SSBNs are done with construction, they started giving state names to these SSNs, since the previous Los Angeles class used city names. So SSN-22 got "Connecticut". Then they decided to pay tribute to Silent Service president Jimmy Carter with SSN-23.

The Congress killed the "Seawolf" class after only 3 boats because it was too expensive. Now they have the new under-contruction "Virginia" class SSNs being assigned state names and taking hull numbers where the 688 "Los Angeles" class left off (780-something, I think).

65 posted on 01/27/2004 9:08:59 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: Sub-Driver
I stand corrected on the boomer naming convention.
66 posted on 01/27/2004 9:09:19 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher (Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com/ sounds good to me!)
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To: Pukin Dog
If it was an enlisted married woman or wife of an enlisted man . . . bigger trouble.

Though if it was the wife of a superior officer, bigger trouble.

And if it was a spy wife . . .
67 posted on 01/27/2004 9:09:30 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Pukin Dog
That would do it.

Evidently toooooooo dumb to be trusted with a nuke sub, it seems.

At least the IQ of the head in his pants was . . . at best sabotaging and probably quite deficient.
68 posted on 01/27/2004 9:10:54 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Sub-Driver
uss jimmy carter? is this a joke?
69 posted on 01/27/2004 9:12:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Pukin Dog
JO complained to superiors after wife admitted relationship.

Hang the captain. He is a disgrace to the Navy.

70 posted on 01/27/2004 9:14:13 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Pukin Dog
The Navy has a new zero-tolerance policy on Adultery for officers. Get caught, you are gone.

As it should be. We are not on clinton time any more.

71 posted on 01/27/2004 9:15:59 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Lockbar
IDIOTS.

Man's arrogance seems to have no bounds.

Political and military arrogance can be some of the worst.
72 posted on 01/27/2004 9:17:07 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Pukin Dog
Given the givens . . .

Few in my experience would have confronted their boss and risked a protracted p*ssing contest.

Not ideal. Common, I think.
73 posted on 01/27/2004 9:19:36 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Poohbah
Good for the JO.

THEN what happened?
74 posted on 01/27/2004 9:21:17 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Sub-Driver
What type of ship will be cursed with the name USS William Clinton?
75 posted on 01/27/2004 9:22:03 AM PST by Rebelbase ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure put it in your tagline too!)
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To: Pukin Dog; Sub-Driver; All
There is a great scene in "Go Tell the Spartans" with Burt Lancaster. Lancaster, a Major who is trying to explain to a subordinate why, after service in WWII, Korea and now Vietnam, he is still a Major. As he and the Captain drink scotch in Vietnam, Lancaster tells him how he had been a General's aide in Washington. The General did not pay attention to his wife and Lancaster did and got caught. His line to the Captain, "That's why I'm still a g-d Major.
76 posted on 01/27/2004 9:22:21 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Rebelbase
Probably a prison ship (if there is such a thing).
77 posted on 01/27/2004 9:23:45 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Rebelbase

78 posted on 01/27/2004 9:26:06 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher (Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com/ sounds good to me!)
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To: Lockbar
Signalman rate is going away too.
79 posted on 01/27/2004 9:29:44 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Pukin Dog
In the latter '70s, the one tank battalion of the 9th Infantry Division at Ft. Lewis, WA had a 'Dining In' at one of the officers clubs. There were a couple of strippers hired, and the CO let things get out of hand. When the Division Commander LTG Cavasos showed up in his PJs; well the rest was predictable.

I understand there was a captain who didn't quite get the distinction between 'dining in' and 'eating out'.

80 posted on 01/27/2004 9:30:04 AM PST by connectthedots (John Calvin WAS NOT a Calvinist.)
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