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To: nopardons
Go back and read your post, that threw Rush Limbaugh into the mix.

OK, so let me recap my position here. Apparently ther has been a failure to communicate. You originally said that there was "zero" surveilance going on by the government. I gave a well known example of this surveilance being obvious by mentioning that Rush probably felt that way (that he was not subject to surveilance) too till he was suddenly confronted with the evidence of gov. surveilance in his financial transactions. At this point we seem to have developed a divergent understanding, with you seemingly (to me) trying to propose both views: that there is "zero" government surveilance going on and that the banking surveilance regarding structuring financial transactions is, and has been for a time, going on. Rush, himself, is actually irrelevant. I could have used other examples, but the Rush example is very well known and I didn't feel there would be any need to dig out evidence of it in an extended discussion the way things like the new 'patriot act' expansions of surveilance might need.

This is where I find my understanding of our discussion to this point. So I have to ask you, are you saying that there is "zero" government surveilance or that there is government surveilance? And how have we come to our current disagreement if you do agree that there is government surveilance (of the citizenry) going on? (and if you do not agree there is surveilance, how do you get around the obbious surveilance in the Rush situation?)

864 posted on 01/27/2004 4:58:47 PM PST by templar
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To: templar
We're saying the trigger mechanism has been in effect to years.That is surveillance,it means you are watched .I am thrilled they can get some of the terror supporters by monitoring financial activity.
870 posted on 01/27/2004 5:02:36 PM PST by MEG33 (America will never seek a permission slip to provide for the security of our country)
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To: templar
What's WRONG with you, that you lie so often and not well!

I did NOT say, not once, that there was " zero " surveillance going on by the government. Please get someone to explain what each post says; you're either having far too much difficulty with comprehending the written word, or are just an outright LIAR !

And,you are so confused, that it is beyond belief! If Rush was unaware of government installed " trigger points ", then why did he take the amount that would NOT " trigger " an investigation ?

You don't know what you're talking about, are backpedaling as fast as you can, and still losing mightily! You know what they say about stop digging that hole, don't you ? If you don't stop now, you're going to look even worse than you do already! JUST GIVE UP, BACK AWAY,AND FIND ANOTHER THREAD TO PLAY THE FOOL ON.

You see posted what you want/imagine; NOT what is actually posted.From that, you go on to extrapolate, based on your own perceived delusion, and try to ignore the continued refutations. THIS WILL NOT STAND SCRUTINY !

GO find a mirror and argue with yourself, because it's useless to keep attempting to argue with me, about things I did not say nor imply!

884 posted on 01/27/2004 5:19:32 PM PST by nopardons
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