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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles (thread 2) Daily Terror Threat
DEBKA ^ | 11/03/03

Posted on 01/26/2004 1:01:03 PM PST by Mossad1967

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To: windchime
Children's Gasparilla Parade was today; it was fireworks over Tampa Bay. Next weekend we'll have fireworks again.
3,561 posted on 01/31/2004 6:05:46 PM PST by Laverne
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To: windchime
Yep, he (still not confirmed it is the sniper) called six times and the dispatcher disregarded the calls.
3,562 posted on 01/31/2004 6:06:01 PM PST by Toespi
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To: jstolzen
I'm afraid you are right. Especially these next 48 hours. Good grief, they've already been interesting. :(
3,564 posted on 01/31/2004 6:07:39 PM PST by Letitring
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To: BulletBobCo
Here's the scheduled flight arrival times for the cancelled flights:

BA 207 2:25 pm arrive at Miami
CO 17 3:00 pm arrive at Newark
CO 17 5:30 pm depart from Newark to LA (2nd leg)
BA 233 6:20 pm arrive at Dulles
AF 026 6:30 pm arrive at Dulles


If BA 207 didn't make it to Miami, then we'd have advance warning about the other flights that are already in the air and they could have fighter escorts for CO 18, BA 233 and AF 026.

Notice the 10 minute difference in arrivals between BA 233 and AF 026.

BA 207 could be a diversion with the real plot being:

2nd leg of CO 17 depart at 5:30p to hit NYC
BA 233 at Dulles at 6:20p
AF 026 at Dulles at 6:30p

All three flight operating within a 1 hour window.

Superbowl at 6:00 pm ET
3,565 posted on 01/31/2004 6:08:27 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Mrs. Xtrmst; flutters; All
NBC4Columbus.com - Full Coverage (for Ohio Serial Sniper Cases)
http://www.nbc4columbus.com
3,566 posted on 01/31/2004 6:10:22 PM PST by Cindy
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To: All
Drudge again has an article about the cancelled flights, though it mentions only 6, instead of 7.
3,567 posted on 01/31/2004 6:12:02 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Laverne
Thanks! Yes, I drove to where the origin of the glare in the sky was. There were too many trees to see the actual fireworks until I got closer. I thought about Gasparilla, but it's usually in February.

3,568 posted on 01/31/2004 6:18:31 PM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: mfccinsd; All
Having been in the ME during Ram
as I had never been there during Ram

I must really be tired this made no sense to me?
3,569 posted on 01/31/2004 6:18:38 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: JustPiper
Sorry, Ramadan...was being lazy....
3,570 posted on 01/31/2004 6:24:25 PM PST by mfccinsd
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To: milkncookies
no, thank you for answering MnC, wow that is a distance! They should be very safe!
3,571 posted on 01/31/2004 6:24:54 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: LayoutGuru2
we will be silent for some time but we will be back very soon

If they are going to annihilate us, who then will they be chatting with?

3,572 posted on 01/31/2004 6:29:37 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Okay, 1 hour later and I finished reading most of the posts here (working backwards, forwards, 200 posts back, 300 posts ahead, ug!)

Also did a quick search at it's happening. Mubarak and his son are both disliked. There were quite a few messages translated, but just one of the difficulties in searching is that the spellings used are not always 100 percent. The messages below -- all translated by the very intelligent and dedicated casey at It's Happening -- are somewhat indicative of the jihad angst against mubarak and others. mubarak seemed to attract even more hatred around the time he tried to work with us to get saddam to do the right thing. There were other, stronger posts, but they are on IH somewhere and require more time to weed through. Some parts of the board were lost in the late summer as well.

Here are some brief snippets of what I found in a real quick search: ___________________________________________________________

The time is now a prepared if the Islamic groups carry the weapon once again

To each organizer

To all who carried the weapon a previous

To all who yearns for the weapon carrying

To each Moslem jealous on his religion and his land and his honor

To all these I say :

The time have become now suitable to the weapon carrying by an organized form against our enemies the Islam enemies are to the fight and the jihad and the Islam flag elevation a high

Our enemies they are not the American or the English or the Jewish

Our enemies they :

Al Saud and families the morning and Mubarak ’s families and Gaddafi families and Hussain ’s families and lion families and unbeliever families and hypocrite families and families is two sciences and dispatch families

These are our enemies and the time a suitable and the Islamic Nation is angry she boils then they invested this precious chance and these terrible times

And carry your weapons that overlooked her then the money of your enemies on you his inclination is one

You return to your religion so that he returns to you your religion

And if he was not now then when what Mohammad ’s lovers are peace be upon him ___________________________________________________________

And waited for the second invasion a near the Allah establishment
Oh Allah ! according to the fighters in each place
Oh Allah ! destroy the American
And their assistants ( Mubarak and Fahd and Bashar and Saddam and Arafat and Gaddafi and except many then the apostates now he is difficult on the one number knowledge them )
**********
And peace be upon you him
___________________________________________________________

And here is a message about jamal:

Its line its secrets successful for Jamal Mubarak 's assassination

Cairo ..The sparrow

The sparrow from the official sources knew that the president Mubarak carries out now the establishment of its line that camels aim at the attempt of its son 's assassination ... By means of the ridding of its present guards ...

By its guards its new ... And a cameleer will face the connection of a Thzaah or its leg so that an Altmthleh that procrastinated that in it innocent persons die insults it ...

And the self team that took a blessed assassination Btmthlia in Somalia will carry out this task ... And a supporter will exploit this subject from a deferred the fabrication of the accusations of opponents is bequeathing the judgement ________________________________________________________

3,573 posted on 01/31/2004 6:30:14 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: jstolzen
Ah hah! So, now I take it that your water experience acquainted you with the manpower it would take to move a suitcase nuke around?
3,574 posted on 01/31/2004 6:32:35 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: JustPiper
"we will be silent for some time but we will be back very soon"

That appears to have posted on the 28th. That about when he stopped posting at itshappening also.
3,575 posted on 01/31/2004 6:33:05 PM PST by Revel
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To: JustPiper
I was thinking about the same thing. There has a been a mention that the media would be notified an hour in advance so that they could cover the destruction, however there won't be anyone to see the transmission. I assume one nuke hit in NYC would disable the power grid pretty much throughout the Northeast. I think pretty much the only news we'll be hearing is from the radio...If they hit other cities as well, then we can kiss the media goodbye since all of the electrical grid will be down....and down for weeks or months.
3,576 posted on 01/31/2004 6:33:56 PM PST by Maringa
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To: Maringa
I am not so sure that the damage to NYC would take out the grid in all of the NE. NYC is a big power consumer and draws there power from other places would be my guess. The load on the grid would actually be reduced...I would think. After the last black out I believe NYC was actually one of the last places to come back online. But I still hope of course that nothing happens to NYC.
3,577 posted on 01/31/2004 6:40:07 PM PST by Revel
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To: Calpernia
Are you still out there? Roll call.
3,578 posted on 01/31/2004 6:49:09 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Domestic Church
Cheers! {she says as she raises her weekend vodka tonic no ice with more than a few twists of lime}
3,579 posted on 01/31/2004 6:54:23 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
Man held in Detroit as terrorism suspect

Somali immigrant is in high-security case

January 31, 2004

BY TAMARA AUDI
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

Federal authorities are detaining a Somali immigrant who is suspected of plotting to carry out a terrorist attack during the recent holiday season, officials confirmed this week.

The man appeared Wednesday at a closed hearing marked by extraordinary security in Detroit's federal immigration court.

He was arrested in early December at his home in Columbus, Ohio, and was a factor in the government's decision to raise the national alert level to orange, or high, that month, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are barred from discussing cases involving high national security issues.

The officials would not describe what kind of plot they suspect.

The man, a U.S. resident for six years, is being held for alleged immigration violations and has not been charged with a crime or any act of terrorism, said his lawyer, Douglas Weigle. The Free Press generally does not identify suspects unless charges are filed.

Weigle, who is based in Cincinnati, said the government's suspicions are farfetched. He said his client owns a small cell-phone business and is married with two children, ages 9 months and 2 years.

Weigle declined to discuss the terror allegations, but said his client is a victim of the times.

"I don't think his case would be handled this way prior to 9/11," Weigle said, referring to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The man appeared in Detroit for a deportation hearing to answer government claims that he has overstayed his visa. He is being held at an undisclosed location and is appealing for asylum because he fears torture and death in war-torn Somalia, Weigle said.

The court in Detroit often hears Ohio immigration cases.

Jorge Martinez, a U.S. Justice Department spokesman, and Greg Gagne, a spokesman for the federal Executive Office of Immigration Review, said the case has been classified as a special interest matter, meaning federal officials are investigating possible terrorism links. Both refused to comment further on the case.

The man's appearance in Detroit prompted federal officials to turn the small immigration court -- squeezed onto the fourth floor of the Crain Communication Building in Brewery Park -- into a high-security zone, according to lawyers who were there for different cases.

Detroit police accompanied federal agents escorting the detainee to his appearance before immigration Judge Elizabeth Hacker. Bomb-sniffing dogs and extra guards were brought in to augment the court's usual security measures, a metal detector and a lone security guard.

"Federal agents were there in force," said George Saba, an accredited immigration representative who was there for another case.

The building's management company, Kirco Management Services, was alerted to the appearance in advance and was instructed to take extra precautions, a Kirco employee said.

About 700 people work in the building, including employees for a Navy recruiting office, OmniCare Health Plan and the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Crain, which co-owns the building and is headquartered there, produces business and automotive publications.

Federal officials said they had hoped to keep the case quiet.

The Bush administration began applying the special interest designation to cases with suspected terrorism links after the Sept. 11 attacks. The designation has allowed authorities to detain hundreds of people on immigration violations while investigating possible terrorist connections. Most immigrants have been deported without facing terrorism charges.

Martinez said the decision to close a hearing for national security reasons is made by the nation's chief immigration judge, Michael Creppy. An immigrant can also request a closed hearing.

Last year, the Free Press sued U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft to open the closed deportation hearing of Rabih Haddad, an Ann Arbor man investigated for possible terrorist fund-raising. The U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati ruled that the hearing should be open. Haddad was deported to Lebanon last year.

Family members for the Ohio man could not be reached for comment.

His arrest shocked the tight-knit Somali community in Columbus. Hassan Omar, a family friend and president of the Somali Community Association of Ohio, said the family told him that local police and agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the FBI made the arrest.

About 30,000 Somalis live in Columbus. They began fleeing to the United States in the late 1990s during a civil war. In the last year, Somalis in Minnesota have been investigated for suspected efforts to raise money for the Al Qaeda terrorist network.

3,580 posted on 01/31/2004 6:58:23 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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