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Immigration: it's not just about "jobs Americans won't do" and taxpayer funded services any more.

It's about crime, public safety, and national security.

It's about life and death.

It's about whether George W. Bush gets a second term in office.

Are you listening, George?

Put us through, Karl, put us through!

1 posted on 01/25/2004 11:39:04 PM PST by Map Kernow
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To: Map Kernow; JustPiper
Bump!
2 posted on 01/25/2004 11:43:45 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: Map Kernow
And just WHY can't we make certain that these thugs are deported immediately when they released from prison?

In fact, I would propose that we help the U.S. economy by giving many of them early parole, but only with the condition of their being deported.
It would have to be a condition that if they ever return to the U.S. they go back to prison, with their sentence doubled, and no further parole possible.

Send about 30-50 thousand back where they came from, let THEIR governments deal with them!

I cannot estimate the savings to Fed., State, and County government.
I expect it would be a couple of Billion dollars.
3 posted on 01/25/2004 11:52:11 PM PST by Richard-SIA (Nuke the U.N!)
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To: Map Kernow
The National Terrorsist Council of La Raza

Check out Rep. Norwood's CLEAR Act

4 posted on 01/25/2004 11:54:49 PM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: Map Kernow
Schippers uncovered a memo written early in 1996 from Doug Farbrother of the National Performance Review (NPR) to Bill Clinton reminding the President that he had "asked us to expedite the naturalization of nearly a million legal aliens." Farbrother set forth the plan "to force some serious `reinvention' on INS" by "appointing one of our proven NPR reinventors as Deputy INS Commissioner" and moving the existing Deputy elsewhere.

The National Performance Review is now called Vice President Al Gore's National Partnership for Reinventing Government, according to its website www.npr.gov. This confirms Gore's peculiar obsession with reinventing things.

Dr. Elaine Kamarck in Gore's office responded to Farbrother on March 21, 1996 in a solid-cap memo: "THE PRESIDENT IS SICK OF THIS AND WANTS ACTION. IF NOTHING MOVES TODAY WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE SOME PRETTY DRASTIC MEASURES."

A March 22 memo to Al Gore from Doug Farbrother then reported that he told INS "to waive stupid rules, move money from one account to another as needed, and recruit and hire people locally instead of through the slow centralized process." Farbrother added that each city manager in the major cities was to be given "a project budget to spend as needed."

Farbrother's memo spelled out other details of the plan to circumvent customary procedure: "delegate hiring authority, waive extensive background investigations on new employees, allow the cities `overhire authority.'" This carried out the suggestion originally made in a February 15 memo from HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros to Clinton and Gore suggesting the use of "volunteers" from Hispanic action groups to "process" naturalization applications.

In a subsequent fax, Farbrother wrote that he had instructed INS Commissioner Doris Meissner to "get the results the Vice President wants."




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5 posted on 01/25/2004 11:56:50 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Map Kernow
The suit was filed by La Raza, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, Latin American Workers Project, New York Immigration Coalition, and Union of Needletrades and Industrial and Textile Employees.

These groups wouldn't want the right of violent criminals to roam free in the USA hampered in any way --- they have an agenda that is about the destruction of the USA anyway.

6 posted on 01/26/2004 12:23:49 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Map Kernow
About 80,000 illegal criminal aliens, including convicted murderers, rapists, drug dealers and child molesters who served prison time and were released, are loose on the streets of America, hiding from federal immigration authorities.

Maybe they're committing the murders and rapes that American criminals don't want.

9 posted on 01/26/2004 12:39:42 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Map Kernow; Sabertooth
bttt!
10 posted on 01/26/2004 12:51:28 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Map Kernow; FITZ
I'm with you. Illegal immigration is THE crucial issue facing Americans right now. I am disgusted with the unwillingness of the Republicans to act with integrity on this issue.
13 posted on 01/26/2004 2:49:50 AM PST by MissouriForBush (Insert "Was")
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
15 posted on 01/26/2004 9:07:57 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Map Kernow
Here we have it. This answer has been staring this nation in the face for the last 20 years.

The civil rights people see it, which is why they will do anything to stop it.

Everyone knows there will never be enough INS/ ICE employees to have a significant impact on the problem. The answer has always been empowering state and locals.

Let me be clear, we are talking about criminal aliens and aliens who have refused to show up for deportation hearings NOT Jose and Maria orange pickers.

I do not believe that local cops should become INS officers or for that matter even question people about their immigration status because it’s not necessary.

If a local officer stops someone in his or her routine duties and NCIC history comes back to an already deported aggravated felon then there is no question as to their immigration status or deportability as it has already been established. The officer should immediately detain the alien and transport them to the nearest INS office and dump them off there.

By law the INS has to take them.

As for Jose and Maria the local officer has better things to do and so does the INS which is why the administration has pushed the guest worker plan.

Love it, hate it, if nothing else it’s pragmatic and the status quo is completely unacceptable from all perspectives.

17 posted on 01/26/2004 10:04:05 AM PST by usurper
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To: Map Kernow
Anti-illegal-immigration bump!
19 posted on 01/26/2004 10:12:58 AM PST by k2blader (Folks who deny the President's proposal is an amnesty are being intellectually dishonest.)
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To: Map Kernow
None of the elite "lawmakers" have to worry about walking through their formerly safe neighborhoods like ordinary citizens do. That is when the reality of this invasion hits you, when you actually fear walking through your own town or neighboring formerly safe areas because of all the horror stories in the news, and especially when you see it up close.

None of them have to worry about sending their kids off to school and wondering if a stray bullet is going to hit them. Their kids are taken to school in limos. None of them have to worry about increased taxes to support the invasion of illegal aliens, they have more money than most of us. None of them have to worry about their local hospital being closed because of bankruptcy due to being forced to treat illegal aliens. They have access to the finest medical centers.

They're so out of touch with real America that it stinks.

21 posted on 01/26/2004 12:07:02 PM PST by janetgreen (WANTED: A President who will enforce existing immigration & border laws.)
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To: Map Kernow
Thanks for the post. Interesting.
25 posted on 01/27/2004 2:16:39 AM PST by PGalt
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