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Open space mission total waste of money
Aberdeen American News ^ | Jan. 25, 2004 | Donna Marmorstein

Posted on 01/25/2004 9:12:37 PM PST by jwalburg

Prescott: Have you heard what the president is proposing now?

Howell: Something about exploration, isn't it?

Prescott: Right. He wants to send a crew out into the great beyond to explore uncharted territory. Have you seen the price tag?

Howell: Yeah. And I understand that much of the funding goes into the pockets of the president's close buddies. One of the guys in charge served as his personal secretary for years, and the other is his good friend, William Clark.

Prescott: There should be an investigation.

Howell: Definitely!

Prescott: It's almost as bad as that Louisiana Purchase deal earlier in the year.

Howell: Talk about wasting taxpayer money on frivolities! No one was even asked about this. The president just went ahead and squandered all this money on a bunch of wasteland no one will ever use!

Prescott: You're telling me!

Howell: How much was it? Twelve million dollars??? Man, you could do a lot of important things with 12 million dollars.

Prescott: Our sailors are being starved from Navy cutbacks and we are going to send 47 men to scamper around the wilderness at government expense? And you know what? Everyone thinks this exploration deal was because of the Louisiana Purchase, but I happen to know that the president was making plans for this back in January, BEFORE there was even talk about purchasing the territory.

Howell: That's pretty incriminating stuff! The Congressional Budget Office should get on this right away.

Prescott: No, I think we'll need a special investigator for this one. The thing is, it isn't 12 million. The public is being told it's 12 million - as if that wasn't enough - but really it's 27 million, with interest figured in. Talk about deficit spending!

Howell: You're kidding me!

Prescott: No. I've looked at the figures. This stupid idea is costing taxpayers 27 million dollars! And for what? It's all a public relations move for Jefferson.

Howell: I heard he thinks that by adding all this land we'll seem big and bad to the Europeans. They won't want to mess with us.

Prescott: That, and the stupid Northwest Passage idea. Northwest Passage! Only pea-brains believe in that Northwest Passage theory. But there's Jefferson for you.

Howell: I understand the vice president has some shady motives for this expedition, too.

Prescott: Aaron Burr! That guy's got ulterior motives in everything he does. And this Lewis and Clark thing is no exception. You knew he lost his seat in the New York Assembly when suspicious financial dealings were leaked to the public, didn't you?

Howell: I heard something about that.

Prescott: Well, now I hear he's been scheming to build up a Trans-Appalachian Empire using new land from this Louisiana Purchase.

Howell: Talk about conflict of interest!

Prescott: I wouldn't be surprised if this whole deal was secretly engineered between Burr and the French. Jefferson is just a puppet, you know. He's been a failure at diplomacy on his own. Burr's behind everything.

Howell: Well, just look at the mess Jefferson made of the Declaration. "Endowed by our Creator!" You'd think the new Republic was run by Church of England fanatics, with language like that inserted in the thing!

Prescott: Did you know that Burr's grandfather was that preacher, Jonathan Edwards? The two of them are in the pocket of the religious right, that's for sure. The explorers have already started this asinine trip, with no real public input, no hearings, no committee debate, no environmental impact reports - nothing! They're taking 6 tons of supplies along, mostly to bribe Indians with. Six tons! And much of it on a stupid keelboat.

Howell: Wonder how far they'll get.

Prescott: I don't know, but there are sure better things to be done with that kind of money. You know what Fisher Ames says about the Louisiana Purchase? "Now - we rush like a comet into infinite space!" He's right! This is a crazy idea. And the Lewis and Clark business is even crazier.

Howell: About as crazy an idea as going to Mars! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Donna Marmorstein writes and lives in Aberdeen. You can contact her at dkmarmorstein@yahoo.com.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; jefferson; lewisandclark; mars; space
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To: marron
We do not disagree.
121 posted on 01/26/2004 1:08:57 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: SpaceBar
BRAVO!
122 posted on 01/26/2004 1:12:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee; SpaceBar
The following is a small terrestrial example of your obsession with quick financial returns. Of course you realize what this means, don't you? The formation of yet another government-funded research entity that will yield products that you consider to be of questionable financial merit. Isn't it grand that we've left the development of new antibiotics in the hands of private industry! < /sarcasm>

Lack of Antibiotic Research Raises Concerns.

Well, at least you'll have something new to complain about.

123 posted on 01/26/2004 8:02:21 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: ambrose
are you familiar with the conditions on those planets? ... Like Jupiter?
124 posted on 01/26/2004 8:07:16 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: RadioAstronomer
Thank you. I was astonished at that response, especially with regards to conditions on / above (atmosphere) Jupiter, and of course, even just the hazardous approach for Saturn is foreboding. Venus, I thought might be too hot for a manned landing. And it is manned landings I was speaking of (as you probably knew).
125 posted on 01/26/2004 8:10:38 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: Bobby777
And it is manned landings I was speaking of (as you probably knew).

Indeed I was. :-)

I left Venus out of the picture on purpose. I think it would be an incredible engineering challenge to land there, but I wont say it's impossible. :-)

126 posted on 01/26/2004 8:17:18 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: SpaceBar
The exploration of space since the Russians put up Sputnik is all about the militarization of space, plain and simple. If they'd at least come clean and say that without all the romantacising to enchant the taxpaying public, I'd be a bit less skeptical.

And the taxpaying public would promptly yawn and forget about it, ignoring any national security concerns. By the time the public is worried about national security it is too late.

And as far as cost/benefit, every civilization needs some mechanism for such pie-in-the-sky speculation. You don't bet the farm on it, but if you don't address it in some way your competitor will and if it pays off he will eat your lunch.

Speculation pays off in ways that simply cannot be seen by a cost/benefit analysis. All the noise about colonies, etc. is just applying the analogy of Columbus to space exploration. Reality may be nothing like that, but experience teaches us to expect great things from great endeavours.

Besides which, NASA is not going away and this money will be spent regardless. The question is not whether or not to spend the money, but how to spend it.

127 posted on 01/26/2004 8:34:45 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: McCloud-Strife
It's $7 trillion and that is public debt. Private debt is another $7 trillion. Some bookkeepers have yet another $40 trillion they trot out from time to time to scare the children. So we owe from $14 trillion to $54 trillion, but as Roosevelt said: so what, we owe it to ourselves. The whole planet is worth maybe $35 trillion, so that is why we have to have Mars and the moon--collateral.
128 posted on 01/26/2004 9:21:10 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Kirkwood
Didn't Stephen Ambrose run into trouble for plagiarism or something lately? That book sounds interesting, but the fact that John Kerry listed it as the last book he was reading makes me hesitate.
129 posted on 01/26/2004 12:19:18 PM PST by jwalburg (We CAN Question their Patriotism!)
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To: jwalburg
Yeah, but when you are pulling that much info together I think you are bound to make a mistake like that. I blame his staff for not keeping closer track of what he wrote and what was written by another author in the citation source.

The book is quite good, whether or not Kerry has read it. It is more scholarly than his Band of Brothers, D-Day, etc writing which were more a compilations of first person narratives. If you think all history is dry, you will want to pass. If you are interested in the minds of Jefferson, Lewis, and Clark, or how the US as we know it came into existence, then you will want to read it.
130 posted on 01/26/2004 3:41:15 PM PST by Kirkwood
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