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To: Cronos
I agree that freedom fighters don't use violence against women and children. The Indian army, however, thinks differently. Why can't we have democracy in Kashmir? The kashmiris have been denied to choose their destiny since 1947, when the UN actually asked India to hold a plebiscite. That hasn't happened yet. I am very intrigued, but not surprised, that if Punjab became independent then you say the Indian govt should kick out all Sikhs from other parts of India. Why? Sikhs and non-Sikhs should all be able to live in free Punjab, like they have for centuries. There are plenty of Punjabis who wanted a peaceful separation from India, but the Indian govt never allowed that, and to top it all of laid a seige on the holiest Sikh shrine which ticked off average Sikhs. Is Pakistan behind it? Possibly. But Pakistan doesn't create these problems. These are problems created by India, which Pakistan takes advantage of. BTW, Kashmir and Punjab are not the only two states who want to have nothing to do with India. Some north-eastern and southern states want separation as well.
34 posted on 01/26/2004 6:50:01 AM PST by FirstPrinciple
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To: FirstPrinciple
Pakistan was created as the land for South AsianMuslims by the Brits. It was not. The largest percentage of South Asia'sMulsims live in India. However in Pak, there is a move ofr sharia and driving out the nonMulsmis.
35 posted on 01/26/2004 7:09:33 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: FirstPrinciple
Pakistan was created as the land for South AsianMuslims by the Brits. It was not. The largest percentage of South Asia'sMulsims live in India. However in Pak, there is a move ofr sharia and driving out the nonMulsmis.

There IS a democracy in Kasmir -- they have had elections whenever theterrorists were kept down -- they had one a few years ago.

I say that your point of asking for a separate Punjab is stupid because of the discontent it will raise -- think of it, Punjab says it should be independent. There are millions of Punjabis all over India who do very well with no discrimination at all. Suddenly you create a reason for discontent.

Folks will say: "If they want to be independent of India, why are they still in India?" Then you'd want this to spread to all over India -- a Balkanisation of India. Then comes the Borther versus brother -- worse than the Sectarian wars that gripped germany before the TReaty of Westphalia.

You'd have millions killed in an internecine battle that'd make the Jugoslavia conflict seem like a picnic -- especially since in Jugoslave you had ONE dominant group, whereas in india you'd probably have a dozen at least, so a massive upheaval. The slammies and the Chinese communists then step in and give the peace of the CommunistSlamist govt.

Sheesh.
37 posted on 01/26/2004 7:15:26 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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