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The Chemical Basis of AIDS
Doc Savage

Posted on 01/24/2004 7:35:26 PM PST by Doc Savage

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1 posted on 01/24/2004 7:35:28 PM PST by Doc Savage
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To: Wumpus Hunter
YOU stole my line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3 posted on 01/24/2004 7:46:46 PM PST by chicagolady
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To: Doc Savage
You may be right, however I'll continue to keep my ankles crossed.
4 posted on 01/24/2004 7:47:59 PM PST by mindspy
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To: Doc Savage
What ever happened to those monkeys in Africa who spread the disease to humans that were panted by "Merc" the maker of all those drugs?? :)
5 posted on 01/24/2004 7:48:47 PM PST by chicagolady
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To: chicagolady
Make that "Planted"
6 posted on 01/24/2004 7:49:38 PM PST by chicagolady
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To: Doc Savage
Thanks for posting this. There was an article in "Lancet" about 13 years ago stating that HIV was not a precurser to AIDS.

Naturally, this scientific opinion was scoffed at by my college professors.
7 posted on 01/24/2004 7:51:42 PM PST by annyokie (Wesley Clark: Howard Dean with medals!)
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To: mindspy
Just so nobody gets the wrong idea, I'll rephrase my post.

You may be right. However, I'll continue to keep my ankles crossed as a lady should.
8 posted on 01/24/2004 7:52:27 PM PST by mindspy
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To: Doc Savage
1) FACT: Only 1 in 1000 unprotected sexual contacts transmits HIV, and only 1 of 275 US citizens is HIV-infected. Therefore, an average un-infected US citizen needs 275,000 random “sexual contacts” to get infected and spread HIV – an unlikely basis for an epidemic.

2) The cause of AIDS is or are: recreational drugs, anti-viral chemotherapy, and malnutrition. HIV does NOT cause AIDS, and AIDS is NOT a sexually transmitted disease. To believe otherwise in the face of fact and logic is incomprehensible to me.

So, is AIDS "NOT a sexually transmitted disease," or is it a fact that "Only 1 in 1000 unprotected sexual contacts transmits HIV"? Rather Contradictory.

Also, regarding the "275,000 random “sexual contacts” to get infected and spread HIV – an unlikely basis for an epidemic." First, the sexual contacts are not RANDOM if gay men tend to have sex with gay men, and heroin users tend to associate with and have sex with other heroin users. Second, the 1 in 1000 odds, even if true of vaginal intercourse with no other STDs or lesions, are way too low for vaginal intercourse for people with STDs or other lesions, and way too low for anal intercourse. As I imply here, I'm sure AIDS is more transmissible in the face of other social and health problems; that does not defeat the conventional paradigm, that AIDS is a virus-caused STD.

In short, your post is absurd.

9 posted on 01/24/2004 7:54:08 PM PST by DWPittelli
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To: Doc Savage
Jon Rappoport at www.nomorefakenews.com has several articles in his archives about HIV not being the cause of Aids.
10 posted on 01/24/2004 7:58:13 PM PST by floridarocks
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To: Doc Savage
The cause of AIDS is or are: recreational drugs, anti-viral chemotherapy, and malnutrition. HIV does NOT cause AIDS, and AIDS is NOT a sexually transmitted disease. To believe otherwise in the face of fact and logic is incomprehensible to me.

This would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Since only a tiny minority of already confused souls could ever be influenced by this nonsense, I won't waste my time pointing out all the fallacies.

11 posted on 01/24/2004 7:59:24 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Doc Savage
Wives of hemophiliacs do not get AIDS.

From the Miami Herald - Saturday, December 22, 1990

"Today, clotting factor for the nation's 20,000 hemophiliacs is said to be cleansed by new laboratory processes. But great numbers of men who took it during those years are infected."

"A study of 100 in Miami found 95 percent HIV positive, and nearly 20 percent of their wives, and 2 to 3 percent of their newborn children."

12 posted on 01/24/2004 8:01:31 PM PST by DWPittelli
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To: DWPittelli
The best way NOT to catch anything is to not open your legs to every Tom, Dick and Harry (no pun intened).


13 posted on 01/24/2004 8:02:17 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: Doc Savage
there is no AIDS-epidemic in prostitutes.

This contradicts every report I've heard for 20 years. Not that the media can be trusted with regards to this issue, but do you have any studies you can cite to back up this statement?

14 posted on 01/24/2004 8:12:35 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Doc Savage
Then, working for Merck & Co., Inc., in New Jersey, I had the benefit of reading almost every scientific journal available.

Umm hmmm, almost?* You should try reading them now. Besides, the molecular biology and immunology of 1981 compared to that of today is like the astronomy of 1881 compared to that currently done at Keck or the Altiplano of Chile.

*The following are just the online scientific journals for S, the subscriptions to which happen to be owned by the U of Chicago. And most of these journals didn't come into existence after 1981:
E-Journal Publishers/Packages subscribed to by the U of C Science Libraries:
Jump To:
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

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15 posted on 01/24/2004 8:31:23 PM PST by aruanan
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To: annyokie
Thanks for posting this. There was an article in "Lancet" about 13 years ago stating that HIV was not a precurser to AIDS.

And there were folks back in Columbus's day saying that he couldn't get to the east by sailing to the west. Historically, that's about equivalent to 13 years in molecular biological research.
16 posted on 01/24/2004 8:35:06 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Doc Savage
Didn't we have this debate a couple of years ago?
17 posted on 01/24/2004 8:39:34 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: aruanan
I've not read a scientific journal that definatively links HIV to AIDS.

If you have a link to an article that proves causation, I will certainly stand corrected.
18 posted on 01/24/2004 8:46:57 PM PST by annyokie (Wesley Clark: Howard Dean with medals!)
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To: Doc Savage
Fascinating.

I suppose the CIA had nothing to do with it either. LOL.

Sounds like you did tons of homework.

Impressive research and logic, to me.

THANKS.
19 posted on 01/24/2004 8:51:56 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: annyokie

Pseudocolored transmission electron micrograph of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) on infected human lymphocyte. Observe the daughter hiv cells leave the infected t-cell for a new host.

20 posted on 01/24/2004 8:53:26 PM PST by I got the rope
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