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Bush 'Desertion' Charge Debunked
NewsMax ^ | 1/24/04 | Limbacher

Posted on 01/24/2004 12:31:13 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Did President Bush "desert" the military, as radical filmmaker Michael Moore insists he did?

Presidential candidate Gen. Wesley Clark suggested during New Hampshire's presidential debate Thursday night that the facts of whether Bush ran out on his National Guard unit in 1972 and 1973 are in dispute.

But in the months before the 2000 presidential election, the New York Times pretty much demolished this Democratic Party urban legend, a myth that first surfaced in its sister paper, the Boston Globe.

"For a full year, there is no record that Bush showed up for the periodic drills required of part-time guardsmen," the Globe insisted in May 2000, in a report Mr. Moore currently cites on his web site to rebut ABC newsman Peter Jennings' debate challenge to Clark that the story is "unsupported by the facts."

"I don't know whether [Moore's desertion charge] is supported by the facts or not," Clark replied "I've never looked at it."

The Times did, however, look at it, and found that Bush had indeed served during the part of the time the Globe had him AWOL - and later made up whatever time he missed after requesting permission for the postponement.

In July 2000 the Times noted that Bush's chief accuser in the Globe report, retired Gen. William Turnipseed, had begun to back way from his story that Bush never appeared for service during the time in question.

"In a recent interview," said the Times, "[Turnipseed] took a tiny step back, saying, 'I don't think he did, but I wouldn't stake my life on it." In fact, military records obtained by the Times showed that Turnipseed was wrong and that the Globe had flubbed the story.

"A review by The Times showed that after a seven-month gap, he appeared for duty in late November 1972 at least through July 1973," the paper noted on Nov. 3, 2000.

The Times explained:

"On Sept. 5, 1972, Mr. Bush asked his Texas Air National Guard superiors for assignment to the 187th Tactical Recon Group in Montgomery [Alabama] 'for the months of September, October and November,'" so Bush could manage the Senate campaign of Republican Winton Blount.

"Capt. Kenneth K. Lott, chief of the personnel branch of the 187th Tactical Recon Group, told the Texas commanders that training in September had already occurred but that more training was scheduled for Oct. 7 and 8 and Nov. 4 and 5."

After the Bush AWOL story had percolated for months, Col. Turnipseed finally remembered another glitch in his story: the fact that National Guard regulations allowed Guard members to miss duty as long as it was made up within the same quarter.

And, in fact - according to the Times - that's what Bush did.

"A document in Mr. Bush's military records," the paper said, "showed credit for four days of duty ending Nov. 29 and for eight days ending Dec. 14, 1972, and, after he moved back to Houston, on dates in January, April and May."

The paper found corroboration for the document, noting, "The May dates correlated with orders sent to Mr. Bush at his Houston apartment on April 23, 1973, in which Sgt. Billy B. Lamar told Mr. Bush to report for active duty on May 1-3 and May 8-10."

Yet another document obtained by the Times blew the Bush AWOL story out of the water.

It showed that Mr. Bush served at various times from May 29, 1973, through July 30, 1973 - "a period of time questioned by The Globe," the Times sheepishly admitted.



TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; awol; bds; bush; clark; desertion; desetion; nh
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To: William McKinley
yea so? He did that in another country or in front of congress? Lots of bad things happened in Vietnam. We did kill millions of them.
121 posted on 01/31/2004 12:02:55 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

122 posted on 01/31/2004 12:04:06 PM PST by ChadGore (Bush 2004 HE'S EARNED IT)
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To: Destro
He slandered his peers with falsehoods.

He is a disgrace, as are those who defend him.

123 posted on 01/31/2004 12:05:26 PM PST by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
His peers not mine. He earned a right to speak on this issue and his speaking out his mind is not treason, Hanoi Jane's act was an act of treason.
124 posted on 01/31/2004 12:15:51 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: ChadGore
Cool pic!! How many medals did he earn? against the enemy?
125 posted on 01/31/2004 12:18:18 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Hon
Look, Kerry enlisted in the US Navy. This was at the time of the largest draft call in the nation's history.

There is no doubt in my mind that he was evading the draft.

126 posted on 01/31/2004 12:33:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Hon
Kerry: Three purple hearts, with actual time spent in-country.

Bush: Four months with the Texas Air National Guard.

That, Hon, is pecisely how ABC/CBS/NBC will spin this. All I'm saying is that we had better prepare ourselves.
127 posted on 01/31/2004 12:43:43 PM PST by pickemuphere
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To: Hon
Really liked the way everybody has picked up on the fact that Kerry dodged the draft by joining the Navy. One fellow I know dodged the draft by enlisting in the Air Force.

He ended up loading filled body bags onto cargo planes.

Sometimes that draftdodging simply didn't work out quite the way it was planned, and then there were the guys who had a close relative in a sensitive position ~ DOD thwarted their efforts to serve every which way unless they broke some pretty serious rules.

Unfortunately today's public seems to be of the impression that the ONLY way to dodge the draft back during the Nam was to join the National Guard, or Air National Guard, or go to school in England ~

At the time none of these guys thought any of that would be considered to be draft dodging.

They were wrong again!

45 to 29 years later they may or may not be held accountable for their mistakes.

128 posted on 01/31/2004 12:57:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: alphadog
Hey, I missed ALL my Reserve and Guard time ~ spent a couple of years in the REAL United States Infantry first.

They wanted me to join an NG unit in Indiana in 1969 to complete my so-called "obligation".

I declined ~ some excuse like "I'd rather eat worms than serve with draftdodgers" ~ something like that ~ so they gave me a waiver.

Dan Quail's the guy who got the position they wanted to stick me in. It is presumed he used "influence" to get it too.

129 posted on 01/31/2004 1:06:44 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: pickemuphere
"That, Hon, is pecisely how ABC/CBS/NBC will spin this. All I'm saying is that we had better prepare ourselves."

Sure. Just like they never mentioned Bush 1's service or even Dole's--when they ran against the draft dodger. (Both of whom also put Kerry's record in the shade.)

It's vomit-inducing.
130 posted on 01/31/2004 2:08:55 PM PST by Hon
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