If (CA) voters reject bond, (Props 57 & 58) 'chaos' may NOT ensue!!!

San Diego Tribune ^ | 01/24/04 | Ed Mendel

[AuntB]

Waspman, I don't know what a "Republican" is anymore, do you? I'm trying, but can hardly tell the difference in any of them.

[marsh2]

Though it is hitting mostly rural folks, we are already seeing a local backlash as folks are getting bills from regulators to pay for the cost of the bureaucracy to regulate them.

DWR is passing down the full cost of watermaster service (including Sacramento overhead;) ma and pa stores with propane are being sent bills for the cost of "hazardous waste" inspection from public health; permitted water right holders (dams, ponds, springs, post 1914 water use rights,) are getting bills from the State Water Resources Control Board to cover regulatory costs. In the meantime, we have discontinued most of our predator trapping service becauise the state no longer pays a share and the feds doubled the pass through cost. The Air Pollution folks have cut off the use of burn barrels. California Department of Rorestry and Fire Protection is going to charge folks $35 on their property taxes for their services. The cost of a streambed alteration agreement (used for irrigation) is also about to skyrocket.

Talk about increased taxes - well rural folks are being bombarded with them - only they are called "fees."

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Well the world sure looks different depending on where you reside in this great state.

Will those user fees go UP or DOWN depending on whether the Bond is passed or no?

And the follow on question is :Exactly who gets punished depending on the various scenarios?

[SierraWasp]

"Though it is hitting mostly rural folks, we are already seeing a local backlash as folks are getting bills from regulators to pay for the cost of the bureaucracy to regulate them."

This is a revolting development and "rural folks" will get it in the neck/wallet, or other part of their anatomy, unless they revolt relentlessly, with legal representation (since they barely have elected representatives with any clout,due to "cows don't vote")!!!

Since confusion reigns, it's any good attorney's job to further confuse, then clarify on the client's terms.

McClintock's approach, which is irrelevant unless Arnold would consider it, to simply roll back the whole spending thing by 13% is evidently too simple. My idea is even simpler and has no chance at all... to simply go back to the 1998 budget and adopt it!!!

These simpler concepts would put the lie to the rip-off's these state agencies are perpetrating on our "rural folks," proving prima facia that they aren't needed!!!

They know dang good and well that city folks would organize immediately and revolt enmass to stop this as they have the votes that the "rural folks" lack because of "one person, one vote" in both houses of the State Legislature. If we had "one county, one vote" in the State Senate like we had prior to "cows don't vote," it would at least give "rural folks" a half a chance through elected reps!!!

[antaresequity]

damn...I thought this was a call to arms...ugh...

More waffles and yogurt...

Let me know when its REAL

[SierraWasp]

"Talk about increased taxes - well rural folks are being bombarded with them - only they are called "fees."

Oh, and another thing...

The MetroMob are agravated that there are so many people out on their rural landscape ruining their "rural environment" (with they pronounce "rule") by building ANY rural homes to despoil their viewshed from I-5, or any river bottom, or even from a jet liner.

They may not be able to have our rural homes razed right now, but by golly they're gonna make sure that no more are ever built!!! People snear when they hear this prejudice articulated in public, but it's nonetheless the truth!!!

They figure they'll drive rural folks back into the congested, crime riddled cities with "smart growth," mass transit and "in-fill development!" They also figure we'll just "lye back and enjoy" this gang-rape job with fees!!!

Arnold doesn't get this and Pete's no help because he never got it, either!!! McClintock understood it, but he didn't have the star power of a personality to get elected. For that matter, Reagan never got it either, so maybe CA is truly ungovernable. The only real solution is to split the state into "Coastal California," and the rest of CA.

[farmfriend]

It's enough to make you feel irrelevant.

[Redcloak]

Burn, baby, burn.

[lewislynn]

Burn, baby, burn.

Starting with your neighborhood.

[Redcloak]

California has a cancer. Only surgery, preferable with a chainsaw, will heal it. I see no reason to borrow more money that we'll have to pay back when the politicians will simply squander it. Better to see the whole system come crashing down on their pointy heads. We should reject this new round of taxes and force these "Armageddon" cuts.

[lewislynn]

I think California is a huge unintended distraction for what Bush is doing with the entire country right now...First he throws us a bone, then he flips us the bone.

[AuntB]

Irrelevant??

There are days I feel like I'm invisible.