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Top 10 reasons why pro-choice side is wrong
Seattle Times ^ | Jan 22, 2004 | Sylvia Sullivan

Posted on 01/22/2004 8:50:09 PM PST by polemikos

Today marks the 31st anniversary of the infamous Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision. Its legacy is the deaths of over 40 million babies.

While pro-lifers mourn, the pro-choice side celebrates. They have the courts and the laws. We claim the truth. With this top-10 list, the gauntlet is thrown down to the pro-choice side that they have been horribly wrong.

10. Abortion is a very complicated issue.
Actually, it is simple enough for a child to understand. Nationally known speaker Janet Folger reduced the debate to its essence, stating, "Live baby good. Dead baby bad."

9. It is a byproduct of conception, a blob of tissue and not a baby.
Medical advances such as ultra-sound, unavailable in 1973, demonstrate that the fetus is indeed a fully formed unique human baby.

8. Abortion will help reduce child abuse, since every child will be a wanted child.
This is another of the unfulfilled promises of Roe v. Wade. Abortion has cheapened life, resulting in skyrocketing child abuse. For example, infant homicide rates more than doubled and reached a 30-year high in 2000, after 27 years of legal abortion.

7. Abortion must be available for cases of rape and incest.
Legalization of abortion was demanded because of hard cases. Alan Guttmacher Institute research paints the grim reality. Only 1 percent of abortions are done due to rape or incest. About 93 percent of all abortions are for social reasons. This includes fears the baby will interfere with work, school, relationship with husband or partner, economic situation or social status.

6. To be pro-choice is to be pro-woman.
Ironically, a cruel twist in this debate is that generally men are more pro-abortion than women. Young men ages 18-25 are the most pro-abortion. Sidewalk counselors at abortion clinics frequently witness the man pushing the woman to abort. Abortion remains a convenient escape of parental responsibility for men.

5. Legal abortion is safe for women.
That abortion is dangerous is a secret kept by abortion supporters. Aborting women suffer more subsequent ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages, premature births, handicapped children, infertility, chronic depression and suicides than women who carry their baby to term. Especially disturbing is the connection between abortion and breast cancer, as observed in 27 of 33 studies worldwide.

4. Abortion will solve the problem in the woman's life.
Actually, many women undergoing abortion lose their lives to the abortion. Consider the Blackmun Wall, which is a Life Dynamics Web site that lists women killed by legal abortions, along with the facts of the circumstances of their death. Although the site lists 347 women dead due to abortion since 1973, it is only the beginning, as they have many more names to be added. They found that an overwhelming majority of abortion-related deaths still remain to be verified. The RU-486 chemical-induced abortion death of 18-year-old Holly Patterson is particularly heart-wrenching. Her parents watched helplessly as she died tragically.

3. America is pro-choice.
The polls are consistently showing that Americans are becoming more pro-life. A poll conducted by Zogby International reported that by a 53-percent-to-36-percent margin, the public supports the statement, "Abortion destroys a human life and is manslaughter." A recent Gallup poll found that 72 percent of young people between ages 13 and 17 believe abortion is morally wrong.

2. Pro-lifers are the radical extremists.
Pro-lifers believe that all human beings have God-given intrinsic value deserving of respect and protection. They believe in loving options such as adoption and crisis pregnancy centers to help moms and babies. The pro-choice side fights to keep abortion legal at any time, for any reason and at taxpayer expense. They battle to preserve the barbaric procedure of partial-birth abortion. They support Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger, who wrote, "The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." In the same spirit, Democratic presidential hopeful Wesley Clark, when asked by a New Hampshire newspaper if abortion should be allowed all the way up through the baby's head coming out of the womb, responded that was up to the woman and her doctor.

1. Abortion on demand has improved society.
We can never replace the over 40 million little ones taken by 31 years of abortion. Children bring such joy, like my little granddaughter. Kylee, 2, is full of life, with bright eyes, and happy smile. She melts the coldest heart as she hugs and says, "I wov you." It hurts when the least of them is snuffed out. Mothers, fathers, and families deserve better. We can choose life as we live out the vision of Thomas Jefferson, who stated, "The care of human life and not its destruction is the first and only object of good government." Our children are waiting and God is watching.

Sylvia Sullivan, of La Mesa, Calif., is president of the East County CRA, a conservative grass-roots volunteer organization, and a member of the San Diego County Republican Central Committee. E-mail her at sylvias@usa.net

Copyright © 2004 The Seattle Times Company


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Washington
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1 posted on 01/22/2004 8:50:09 PM PST by polemikos
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To: polemikos
Abortion remains a convenient escape of parental responsibility for men.

Well, that's just about the most sexist thing I've read in a long time. What about women? Women can't escape their parental responsibility through abortion? Bah. If that woman decides to have that baby, the courts will make sure that the man doesn't escape his responsibility.

Let's face facts - under the current abortion laws, women have "choices" and men have "obligations"... despite the fact that both parties are usually equally responsible for an unwanted pregnancy.

The funny thing is, when you confront a pro-choice feminist about the forced obligation a man has if a woman "chooses" to have her child, she'll start to sneer about deadbeat dads and say something like, "He should have thought of that before he decided to have sex with that woman!" Ooooooooooooh... I see... so you are advocating ABSTINENCE???

Hypocrits.

2 posted on 01/22/2004 9:04:26 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: polemikos
Great post! This lady lays out facts that I have been looking for. I knew that there were many deaths and serious side effects associated with "safe" abortions. Does anyone have a web address for the "Blackman Wall that the author listed here?
3 posted on 01/22/2004 9:04:56 PM PST by passionfruit (passionate about my politics, and from the land of fruits and nuts)
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To: polemikos
I wathced part of the NARAL celebration on C-Span tonight.

Sickening.....aboslutely disgusting.

Self obsessed narssistic folks with issues projecting their own collective neurosis on society and cloaking it as idealism fighting evil.

But as you listen and observe, you understand the roots of the pro-infanticide movement are solidly founded in feminism and anti-male and anti-Christian deconstruction underneath. That is who they truly despise: Christian Males.
4 posted on 01/22/2004 9:05:07 PM PST by wardaddy ("either the arabs are at your throat, or at your feet")
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To: bolobaby
It's really not sexist. Women I know have been pushed into aborting babies that they really wanted by husbands or boyfriends that didn't want the responsibility. Yes, TODAY women can get child support (probably) with the help of the courts or the State, but that is a more recent development.

When Roe V Wade was passed, there were not such conveniences. If a man didn't pay, he didn't pay. Also, there was no such thing as a womens shelter in most cities then. If she feared abuse, she had better do what she was told, or he could beat her until she either relented or lost the baby or her own life. She was lucky if he didn't jusdt skip out.

Roe v Wade is terribly one sided though. I know that plenty of men have wanted to be good fathers to babies that selfish women have aborted, and they had NO choice.

This is a two way street.

5 posted on 01/22/2004 9:16:28 PM PST by passionfruit (passionate about my politics, and from the land of fruits and nuts)
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To: passionfruit
BlackmunWall
6 posted on 01/22/2004 9:19:40 PM PST by polemikos
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To: polemikos
The polls are consistently showing that Americans are becoming more pro-life. A poll conducted by Zogby International reported that by a 53-percent-to-36-percent margin, the public supports the statement, "Abortion destroys a human life and is manslaughter." A recent Gallup poll found that 72 percent of young people between ages 13 and 17 believe abortion is morally wrong.

For years, the media has played both sides of the fence. If a polled individual indicates that he or she believes abortion should be legal in cases of rape, incest, or to protect the life of the mother, they are counted as pro-abortion, and the news story will state that "most Americans believe that abortion should be legal in some circumstances". If, on the other hand, an elected official believes that there should be any restrictions on abortion, the press reports them as being anti-abortion. Polls consistently show that most Americans believe abortion should ONLY be legal in cases of rape, incest, and to protect the life of the mother.

The pro-aborts also insist that the term "protect the health of the mother" be inserted. Politicians who have to vote the Rat line while dealing with a more conservative constituency back home will use this as an excuse to vote against any abortion restrictions. Legally, the Supreme Court has defined "health of the mother" to include emotional health. This totally guts the law. The abortionists just lead the girl to say that she'd be emotionally upset if she carried the baby to term, and they can legally sidestep the law.

Abortionists do NOT want the mother to see ultra-sounds of their baby. That was what changed my life. When I saw my daughter sucking her thumb in the womb, it hit me that all we'd have to do is say, kill her, and the doctor could have legally committed murder.

7 posted on 01/22/2004 9:20:30 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: polemikos
I am a man who once was pro choice and who finally came to the conclusion that no one has EVER proved that the fetus is NOT a living human being.

As a matter of fact, baby murderers continue to ignore technological advances made since Rowe v. Wade that show a fetus smiling, crying, sucking it's thumb etc.

8 posted on 01/22/2004 9:21:17 PM PST by Doninnj
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To: polemikos
Roe v Wade is jurisprudentially bogus. Read Renquist's dissent (published concurently). Click on http://www.fedworld.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?waisdocid=8350008157+0+0+0&waisaction=retrieve. Then search to REHNQUIST.
9 posted on 01/22/2004 9:47:38 PM PST by AlienCrossfirePlayer (proud of our brave warriors)
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To: All
Sorry, the link does not work. Copy the link to a browser command line. Then it will work.
10 posted on 01/22/2004 9:52:55 PM PST by AlienCrossfirePlayer (proud of our brave warriors)
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer
The address is good, although the link doesn't work.

Remove the period at the end
11 posted on 01/22/2004 9:55:23 PM PST by LaraCroft (If the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, do the stupid get stupider?)
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http://www.fedworld.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?waisdocid=8350008157+0+0+0&waisaction=retrieve
12 posted on 01/22/2004 9:56:54 PM PST by AlienCrossfirePlayer (proud of our brave warriors)
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To: LaraCroft
Thank you.
13 posted on 01/22/2004 9:57:56 PM PST by AlienCrossfirePlayer (proud of our brave warriors)
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To: polemikos

The time for choice is before your knickers hit your ankles...


14 posted on 01/22/2004 9:58:26 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (The only good news for Democrats is they could save $$ by switching to Geico.)
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To: polemikos
SPOTREP - PRO-LIFE
15 posted on 01/22/2004 10:02:37 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Doninnj
I'll never forget watching my son sucking his thumb when I was 7 months along. I'll also never forget him grinding into my stomach with his foot every time I tried to sleep on my belly!
16 posted on 01/22/2004 10:04:00 PM PST by Marie (I forgot to wake up this morning.)
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To: polemikos
Actually, many women undergoing abortion lose their lives to the abortion. Consider the Blackmun Wall, which is a Life Dynamics Web site that lists women killed by legal abortions, along with the facts of the circumstances of their death. Although the site lists 347 women dead due to abortion since 1973, it is only the beginning, as they have many more names to be added. They found that an overwhelming majority of abortion-related deaths still remain to be verified. The RU-486 chemical-induced abortion death of 18-year-old Holly Patterson is particularly heart-wrenching. Her parents watched helplessly as she died tragically. <<

This is a weak and largely untrue argument. 347 women died having abortions? How many died in childbirth? I respect the pro life argument but its strength is not the relative safety of abortion it is the right of the baby to live.

17 posted on 01/22/2004 10:05:08 PM PST by Honestfreedom
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To: All
Better to search to "REHNQUIST, DISSENTING".
18 posted on 01/22/2004 10:08:48 PM PST by AlienCrossfirePlayer (proud of our brave warriors)
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To: Honestfreedom
I think a more valid argument is the psychological trauma a woman has with an abortion years after the procedure. Every baby, every child playing becomes a moment of "what if" that hurts any feeling normal woman.

I have a friend who got divorced from a woman who had an abortion during a previous marriage. Her first ex-husband did not want the baby because it would upset "their" career goals. (both corporate types) She got the abortion and they divorced after.

She met my friend, and they married after about a year. It only lasted 6 months. His side was that it became a constant shadow. She could not even discuss the matter without tears. He said it was like the marriage was just another accessory and she went full steam back to career mode. She refused counseling and refused to accept the fact that the loss of the child had to be dealt with.

I met her a couple of times. She seemed nice enough, not what you would expect in terms of a woman who would have an abortion to favor a career and husband. I don't know, enough myself.

I do know that women need post abotion counseling. It is choice, and these women who choose to have an abortion have to be treated as a woman who has lost a child to death. (especially since it is a death selected by the woman who would be mother.)
19 posted on 01/22/2004 10:23:30 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: polemikos
The Seattle Times printed this? Simply amazing!!
20 posted on 01/22/2004 10:23:36 PM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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