Hate to say 'I told you so ...'

World Net Daily ^ | anuary 22, 2004 | Hal Lindsey

[Mikey]

The United States has "unsigned' the 1998 Rome Treaty that would put America under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court treaty that Bill Clinton signed on Dec. 31, 2000.

The Bush administration took the unprecedented step of "unsigning" an international treaty because, well, simply put, it doesn't trust the international community. Dubbed the "Rome Treaty," it puts signatory nations under the jurisdiction of the International Court at the Hague, grants ICC prosecutors extraordinary powers and grants ICC officials lifetime immunity.

The Rome Treaty would give the ICC the right to review U.S. court decisions and re-try individuals if the ICC determines decisions "were not conducted independently or impartially," or were for the purpose of "shielding the person concerned from criminal responsibility."

The ICC also does away with rights granted Americans under the Constitution, like the right to confront one's accusers, due process, trial by jury, a public and speedy trial by an impartial jury, and protection from cruel and unusual punishments. So Bush "unsigned" it.

[Mikey]

This article should be a wake up for a lot of Americans. There are however a few comments (below) in this article that bug me.

"The ICC also does away with rights granted Americans under the Constitution..."

Our rights are not granted to us by the Constitution or any other man made decree or document.

"The United States said it won't place itself under the ICC's jurisdiction, even though other democracies ."

Article 4, section 4 of the Constitution for the United States for all those who believe we are a democracy.

[saveliberty]

Woo hoo! Let's undo more bad agreements. Like paying money to France.

[Jim Robinson]

It's all Bush's fault.

[Paleo Conservative]

Article 4, section 4 of the Constitution for the United States for all those who believe we are a democracy.

Article IV.

Section 4 The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

[Jim Robinson]

But, but, "George W. Bush is a globalist ushering in the New World Order."

[Mr. Mojo]

GWB's highlighting of the UN's irrelevance and his disdain for international treaties in general has been tremendous, and refreshing. For those who think that the two main parties are indistinguishable, ask yourselves if there's a chance in hell that a 'Rat would've (or would ever) do the same.

[Mr. Mojo]

oops, I meant to say "ask yourselves if there's a chance in hell that a 'Rat would ever do the same.

[reed_inthe_wind]

The ICC - isn't that a terrorist organization?

[ElkGroveDan]

But, but, "George W. Bush is a globalist ushering in the New World Order."

Its just a clever stunt to lull us all into complacency. Look for more of these globalist stunts cleverly disguised as common sense international policy. There are two kinds of people in the world those who believe in the conspiracy and those who are part of it. ;) < /sarcasm >

[Tempest]

Definately a good thing the President did here and a good thing at insuring American soverignty.

[Carthago delenda est]

If I'm not mistaken, the ICC does not recognize the right of the accused to face the accuser, and it has no prohibition against double jeopardy prosecution. There are no appeals. Every nation gets one vote for procedural matters: the United States would have as much say over the composition of the court as, say, Iran.

Signatories to the ICC also recognize the right of the organization to pursue "war criminals" residing within their borders; the agreement would atrophy the entire concept of national sovereignty. If the U.S. signed this treaty, a group of bureaucrats could legally enter the United States, arrest Henry Kissinger, and whisk him off to a kangeroo court in The Hague.

Ain't gonna happen, leftists. Take your one-world peace plan and go pester someone else.

[Mikey]

"...Let's undo more bad agreements..."

Get the United States outta the UNITED NATIONS and the UNITED NATIONS outta these united States

[Mikey]

"The ICC - isn't that a terrorist organization?"

Under the definition of terroristic organizations, the IRS also falls under that definition.

SCRAP THE CODE, ABOLISH THE IRS

[Senator Pardek]

I loved this guy in "Barney Miller".

[TigersEye]

The British "war crimes" reportedly arise from its use of some 70 cluster bombs, each of which contained 17 "bomblets," as well as its use of artillery shells that also contained bomblets. In other words, they used weapons of war to conduct a war and fought to win. Under ICC rules, that is evidently a war crime.

Cluster bomb the ICC.

[gooleyman]

But, but, "George W. Bush is a globalist ushering in the New World Order."

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Hmmm, I've been told that too. I wonder what our third partiers will have to say about this move. Amazing none of them have posted on this yet...truly Amazing.

I've said before, I don't like everything Dubya does, but when he does something good, I believe in giving him credit for it. Just like I gave Clintoon credit for the good he did...I wish I could remember what it was...smile.

[savedbygrace]

This is a great move by President Bush.

[rintense]

Counting the posts until someone (other than my post) mentions these words: illegals and amnesty.

5,4,3,2...

[BykrBayb]

But thanks to the foresight of the current administration, the ICC has no jurisdiction over U.S. servicemen or the U.S. officials who prosecuted the war. Just over the British who thought, "Gee, what a great idea!" when it was presented to them.

WHOO HOO!!!!

[Jim Robinson]

He left the White House without leaving fingernail marks on the doorjambs, etc. In other words, he didn't have to be dragged out kicking and screaming like some thought he would. I suppose that's a good thing.

Of, course, it took him a couple years to understand that he's no longer president. Hmmmmm.... at least I think he understands that now.